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The QB Position Is Becoming Pretty Expensive For The Dolphins

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Article below that the Dolphins need a high end backup for Tua is obviously give or take correct. The issue is, Tua already has a huge contract. If the Dolphins pay up for a backup, the money to pay talent for the rest of the team drops even further. Which cannot happen, because they are already up against it. How is this supposed to work? I am not sure it can. There will be no high end backup for Tua. Miami is going to have to hope they can find someone pretty good, on a good deal. It is possible. Darnold was a 1 year, $10mm deal, but structured so this years cap hit was only $5mm. Flacco was 1 year, $4.5mm. So those guys are out there, but you have to trust Miami to get it right, which they haven't so far. Then the other issue, it seems challenging for other QBs to run the Tua offense, for whatever reason. Or maybe it is challenging for McDaniel to adapt the offense to other QBs. Also if use a high draft pick to try and solve for the problem, that is another version of the position getting expensive. We need the draft capital to fill some obvious holes on the roster. This is a tricky issue to solve for, and neither answer sadly, is great.

 
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It’s been an issue for over two years and it’s incredible this hasn’t been fixed, regardless of cost. It’s like having a Porsche 911 GT3 RS as your daily driver, but beyond the awesome performance, your particular vehicle is unreliable and it can leave you stranded roadside, and takes weeks or months to repair. Your two plus year solution relating to the unreliable car is buying the cheapest POS on the road that may or may not start every time you need it, and when it does start up, it runs like crap. Weird analogy but Tua is our GT3 and the backups we’ve rolled with, they all stink, like a fifty year old Pacer. Another Grier failure..
 
You draft a guy with attributes that can work in your system and you develop the guy. That’s why it’s mind boggling to me that the Dolphins organization couldn’t see that they were wasting their time on Skylar Thompson for the last three years. I could see that they wanted to keep him around after his rookie season because he didn’t look horrible in the preseason, but by season three it had become quite obvious that Thompson wasn’t even close to an NFL caliber backup quarterback let alone a future starting quarterback prospect.
 
It’s been an issue for over two years and it’s incredible this hasn’t been fixed, regardless of cost. It’s like having a Porsche 911 GT3 RS as your daily driver, but beyond the awesome performance, your particular vehicle is unreliable and it can leave you stranded roadside, and takes weeks or months to repair. Your two plus year solution relating to the unreliable car is buying the cheapest POS on the road that may or may not start every time you need it, and when it does start up, it runs like crap. Weird analogy but Tua is our GT3 and the backups we’ve rolled with, they all stink, like a fifty year old Pacer. Another Grier failure..
That is a pretty darn good way of describing the situation
 
You draft a guy with attributes that can work in your system and you develop the guy. That’s why it’s mind boggling to me that the Dolphins organization couldn’t see that they were wasting their time on Skylar Thompson for the last three years. I could see that they wanted to keep him around after his rookie season because he didn’t look horrible in the preseason, but by season three it had become quite obvious that Thompson wasn’t even close to an NFL caliber backup quarterback let alone a future starting quarterback prospect.
it's why we lose man, how does Ross not see this or at least Dan the Man (wtf is he there for)
 
it's why we lose man, how does Ross not see this or at least Dan the Man (wtf is he there for)
Good point re Marino. I wonder if his job is more PR and to be a pretty face. It is so weird. He is always up there in owners box, maybe he does something, or just gets paid to kiss Ross's tush. Whatever he has been doing has not seemed to have helped
 
What exactly does the title of your thread have to do with what you posted??
I guess I should have explained it more, I thought it was easy to infer what I meant. Tua is already very expensive given his new contract. If they now need to pay through the nose for a better backup bc he can't stay on the field, we would now be devoting a crazy amount of money to the QB position. That is what I meant by the pay raise
 
I guess I should have explained it more, I thought it was easy to infer what I meant. Tua is already very expensive given his new contract. If they now need to pay through the nose for a better backup bc he can't stay on the field, we would now be devoting a crazy amount of money to the QB position. That is what I meant by the pay raise
… and how is that Tua receiving a pay raise exactly?
 
Obviously yeah we need a good / great backup QB if Tua is the qb.

I wish we would draft a guy with actual potential
I wouldnt say we need a great back up, but at least a solid NFL caliber QB. Other teams do it, no idea why we refuse. Other teams have high salary QBs AND decent back ups, so using Tua's salary isnt an excuse.

We rarely draft QB prospects, no reason we cant use a late round pick on a flyer every 2 years. Unfortunately, now we are at a point where we need to be more aggressive with our QB situation and use a day 1 or 2 pick on a QB.

If they dont draft one, they need to get a vet that knows his ass from a hole in the ground.
 
Article below that the Dolphins need a high end backup for Tua is obviously give or take correct. The issue is, Tua already has a huge contract. If the Dolphins pay up for a backup, the money to pay talent for the rest of the team drops even further. Which cannot happen, because they are already up against it. How is this supposed to work? I am not sure it can. There will be no high end backup for Tua. Miami is going to have to hope they can find someone pretty good, on a good deal. It is possible. Darnold was a 1 year, $10mm deal, but structured so this years cap hit was only $5mm. Flacco was 1 year, $4.5mm. So those guys are out there, but you have to trust Miami to get it right, which they haven't so far. Then the other issue, it seems challenging for other QBs to run the Tua offense, for whatever reason. Or maybe it is challenging for McDaniel to adapt the offense to other QBs. This is a tricky issue to solve for.


This isn’t rocket science. This offseason, if Miami decides they either want to, or have to keep rolling with Tua, they need to suck it up, bite the bullet and invest as high of a draft pick as possible into drafting not only a high level back up, but a guy that has Franchise QB type potential and can take over for Tua permanently should concussions continue to be an issue- and they most likely will be.

Think of a Kirk Cousins/Penix Jr. style scenario. It gives Miami another option at QB and more importantly, that option will be on a rookie salary for a few years while things sort themselves out with Tua.

It’s a rock and a hard place for Miami but it’s literally the only option that makes sense moving forward. Tua wants to keep playing, they can’t afford to cut him, and nobody is gonna trade for him. The bright side is that when healthy, he’s still a great QB. By drafting his possible replacement and hoping Tua stays healthy, it gives Miami a necessary insurance policy while allowing the Dolphins to kick the can down the road for 3-4 years before they’ve gotta decide which QB to hold onto.

But either way you slice it, from this point forward, having Tua as your starting QB and not implementing a MAJOR plan for the backup QB position is franchise suicide and a level of negligence that should absolutely not be tolerated. Sad thing is, I have about zero% faith in the F.O. doing what needs to be done this offseason.
 
Good point re Marino. I wonder if his job is more PR and to be a pretty face. It is so weird. He is always up there in owners box, maybe he does something, or just gets paid to kiss Ross's tush. Whatever he has been doing has not seemed to have helped
I always see him on the field, with Ross etc and I know he is simply a figurehead but at some point you would think he would say **** it and let it all hang out. He has to see what we see, I mean come on.
 
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