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it's not that hard. Arm talent is being consistently accurate vs. Arm strength being how far can you chunk it and still be accurate.
 
I did a google search with the phrase "Jeff George accuracy issues". Couldn't find any articles describing accuracy as a problem. Leadership? Attitude? yes. Accuracy? No. I did find this quote:



and this:






Those that do it consistently have superior arm talent. George was Cutler because of attitude issues.



False. Throwing from different platforms also impacts accuracy and timing. Some more than others, hence differences in arm talent.




Montana's only question was arm strength, which is part of arm talent.

Not sure why you are not getting it. Arm talent and arm strength are not synonymous for quarterbacks any more than they are for baseball pitchers.

Ability to throw from different platforms is used with arm strength, without that you cant have accuracy or timing.
 
Because of their accuracy...not this made up "arm talent"

Of course "arm talent" is a made up term. It is a shorthand way of saying "he has enough arm strength to make all the throws and he consistently has good ball placement and touch. " It is distinguished from each of the separate characteristics because it is possible to have any one or two of them without the other.

Arm Talent
This is a loose term that refers to the ability to consistently make every type of throw. By this definition, arm talent would include arm strength because it takes arm strength to make deep passes to the sideline as well as passes far downfield. This does not mean that a quarterback has to have an elite arm, but simply that he has enough arm strength to make deep and intermediate passes. Arm talent also includes accuracy, because every type of throw includes proper ball placement. One aspect of arm talent that often overlooked is touch. Certain throws require taking something off or lobbing a pass over a defender. Even though raw strength is not a factor in touch, this is not an easy skill.

For a quarterback to have arm talent, he would have to have all three of these traits. A player like Colin Kaepernick might have an amazing arm, but struggles making touch passes; therefore, he does not have arm talent, he has great arm strength. Although he has tried to work on his touch, he has not shown that he can consistently make those passes – further evidence that arm talent is an inherent trait. Aaron Rodgers, on the other hand, can make every type of throw, from amazing Hail Mary passes, to pin-point sideline passes, to seam passes that barely get over the outstretched fingertips of a linebacker. He has arm talent – maybe the best arm talent in the world.

BTW, "arm strength" is a made up term also. It doesn't actually refer to the physical strength of their arms.
 
That's just called being accurate passer

What do you call it when a QB has excellent arm strength but poor placement always?
What do you call it when a QB has excellent arm strength but poor placement when thrown with less velocity or throws the short passes too hard?
What do you call it when a QB has excellent arm strength but an inability to throw accurately with different trajectories?
What do you call it when a QB has excellent arm strength but poor timing on routes that are coming across the field or down the field?
What do you call it when a QB has excellent arm strength and accuracy from the pocket but poor placement when throwing in the run?
What do you call it when a QB has excellent arm strength and excellent placement from the pocket or on the run and with different trajectories with good timing on all kinds of routes?
 
Of course "arm talent" is a made up term. It is a shorthand way of saying "he has enough arm strength to make all the throws and he consistently has good ball placement and touch. " It is distinguished from each of the separate characteristics because it is possible to have any one or two of them without the other.



BTW, "arm strength" is a made up term also. It doesn't actually refer to the physical strength of their arms.

False. Arm strength is an actual attribute on madden. Arm talent is not
 
Arm talent is a single point of evaluation for a quarterback. It is a fairly obvious and easily recognized at the top and bottom level. However, there are many variations in the middle. NFL talent evaluators consistently tout and elevate quarterbacks who can “make every throw.” It is a baseline in evaluation, a box that is checked. It implies some level of accuracy on the throws, but does not involve the totality of quarterback play.

A quarterback with elite arm talent can make throws to all the zones on the field. The zones are as follows:

  • Flat/Middle Drag — 0-5 yards sideline to sideline
  • Out — 5-16 yards from the numbers to the boundary
  • Curl — 5-16 yards from the hash to the numbers
  • Hook — 5-16 yards from hash to hash
  • Deep Out — 16-27 yards from hash to sideline
  • Deep Middle — 16-27 yards from hash to hash
  • Deep — 27+ yards
Each zone requires multiple throw types in order to be effective. A lower level of arm talent can get the ball in to each zone, but may be limited in the type of throw that they utilize. For instance, one player may be able to throw from the far hash to the opposite deep out zone with velocity and with touch while another may only be able to reach that zone via a lobbed touch pass. Both require accuracy and both can be effective. However, the preference is to have a quarterback with the arm talent to make multiple types of throws in to that zone in order to maximize the routes that can be utilized to beat the defense.

A quarterback that can “make every throw” forces the defense to defend every route. A quarterback with lesser arm talent allows a defense to sit on certain zones and routes, and can be forced to make throws that are higher risk for their arm profile.
 
Arm talent is a single point of evaluation for a quarterback. It is a fairly obvious and easily recognized at the top and bottom level. However, there are many variations in the middle. NFL talent evaluators consistently tout and elevate quarterbacks who can “make every throw.” It is a baseline in evaluation, a box that is checked. It implies some level of accuracy on the throws, but does not involve the totality of quarterback play.

A quarterback with elite arm talent can make throws to all the zones on the field. The zones are as follows:

  • Flat/Middle Drag — 0-5 yards sideline to sideline
  • Out — 5-16 yards from the numbers to the boundary
  • Curl — 5-16 yards from the hash to the numbers
  • Hook — 5-16 yards from hash to hash
  • Deep Out — 16-27 yards from hash to sideline
  • Deep Middle — 16-27 yards from hash to hash
  • Deep — 27+ yards
Each zone requires multiple throw types in order to be effective. A lower level of arm talent can get the ball in to each zone, but may be limited in the type of throw that they utilize. For instance, one player may be able to throw from the far hash to the opposite deep out zone with velocity and with touch while another may only be able to reach that zone via a lobbed touch pass. Both require accuracy and both can be effective. However, the preference is to have a quarterback with the arm talent to make multiple types of throws in to that zone in order to maximize the routes that can be utilized to beat the defense.

A quarterback that can “make every throw” forces the defense to defend every route. A quarterback with lesser arm talent allows a defense to sit on certain zones and routes, and can be forced to make throws that are higher risk for their arm profile.

Make all the throws = accurate passer, no?
 
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