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The biggest problem with this team is the vision McDaniel and Greer had to build this team. Tua is not the problem! It’s the way the team is built around Tua. Look at some of the first place teams. Lions, Eagles, and Steelers. You think if you put any of those qb on this team we’d be better? Do you think if you Put Tua on those teams they wouldn’t be in first? I’ll be the first to say it. Tua played like dog crap yesterday. Unfortunately it’s always on him and he has to almost play perfect for us to win. Unfortunately Tua is not able to completely carry a franchise on his back. Guess what. Almost no qb can. What Tua needs and this team needs is what those teams have and how they’re built. Please tell me which other team in NFL has all midget receivers? This team needs a gm and coach with the proper vision and one that doesn’t put everything on the qb. Build the offensive line from middle out, bring in a power back for inside the 20 and short yardage. Get a couple wr that can go snatch a ball if it’s not perfectly thrown. Fins do this, will be competing for championships. Until then, all the lemmings will be asking for a new qb. And after we get one. It will be rinse repeat!
 
The biggest problem with this team is the vision McDaniel and Greer had to build this team. Tua is not the problem! It’s the way the team is built around Tua. Look at some of the first place teams. Lions, Eagles, and Steelers. You think if you put any of those qb on this team we’d be better? Do you think if you Put Tua on those teams they wouldn’t be in first? I’ll be the first to say it. Tua played like dog crap yesterday. Unfortunately it’s always on him and he has to almost play perfect for us to win. Unfortunately Tua is not able to completely carry a franchise on his back. Guess what. Almost no qb can. What Tua needs and this team needs is what those teams have and how they’re built. Please tell me which other team in NFL has all midget receivers? This team needs a gm and coach with the proper vision and one that doesn’t put everything on the qb. Build the offensive line from middle out, bring in a power back for inside the 20 and short yardage. Get a couple wr that can go snatch a ball if it’s not perfectly thrown. Fins do this, will be competing for championships. Until then, all the lemmings will be asking for a new qb. And after we get one. It will be rinse repeat!
Good points. I’ve also been thinking of Miami’s vision, strategy.

I think McD tried to “outsmart “ everyone by building around speed and scheme at the cost of force and strength.

Like the underdog coach looking to prove he’s smarter than the big kids.

Despite rules and philosophical changes… football is still a physical game played by big people.

I’m not sure wtf they were trying to do here.
 
I agree with you. The administration portion of this team needs to be purged starting with Grier. Bring in a new GM and let them build out the staff to include our scouting department. I see people complaining that there are not too many people out there with experience. Yes, we will have to hire an up-and-coming person from ANOTHER ORGANIZATION (pointing the finger at Ross for promoting from within by his selection of Grier). Let the new GM evaluate the coach, staff, and players and make executive decisions. Let's be clear, if Ross does nothing, this team will not improve.
 
Personnel wise the team is high mid-tier, it's been that norm for a long time.
Over the last 25 years or so i think the only teams with elite talent on the roster were 02/03/07/22
I don't think it's coincidence we struggled to beat teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh over the last 25 years or so.
Even when those teams were down we still had issues with them
Baltimore owned us for nearly 20 years in a similar fashion to what Buffalo is doing to the team now
 
they don’t have a vision is more likely. The first thing you need to do when building a team is to build the team that can beat your biggest competitor for the division. We haven’t done that. Buffalo is a physical team from the QB on down. We're not physical at all. This team is built on speed only so when we play the physical teams we get beat up front and that neglects our speed. Till you build a physical team that can actually compete with the Bills then Buffalo will continue to win the division and we'll be hoping for a wildcard and a first round loss in the playoffs if we actually get in which this year we didn’t
 
they don’t have a vision is more likely. The first thing you need to do when building a team is to build the team that can beat your biggest competitor for the division. We haven’t done that. Buffalo is a physical team from the QB on down. We're not physical at all. This team is built on speed only so when we play the physical teams we get beat up front and that neglects our speed. Till you build a physical team that can actually compete with the Bills then Buffalo will continue to win the division and we'll be hoping for a wildcard and a first round loss in the playoffs if we actually get in which this year we didn’t
Chris Grier doesn't have a vision. He never has. He's a follower, not a leader as a GM. That's always been my biggest issue with him.
- He doesn't have a vision/blueprint for what he wants this franchise to be. For that, he relies on his HC hires instead of hiring coaches that fit what him and Ross want this organization to be.
- After bad hires, his over-reliance on the HC to dictate vision means there's no checks/balances come FA and draft time, so bad decisions are made on those fronts.
- When that coach fails, the next hire is the complete OPPOSITE of the previous coach...Gase to Flores to McD. The roster doesn't fit whatsoever, so after a few seasons of guys being bad scheme fits or playing next to one another with skillsets that don't mesh and failing as a team, that coach is fired and a new scheme comes in, meaning new players.
- Grier decided to double down and make it worse by keeping Boyer with McD, then firing him for Fangio, then cutting him loose for Weaver.....all different.

I could go through questionable draft pick after questionable draft pick but it makes no sense to get into the specific names bc others have done it here for me. But over-drafting guys at positions he neglected. Being awful at drafting OL. Seemingly being all over the place with positional value vs talent/BPA, one year seemingly drafting for now like you're making a SB push and the very next drafting for the future like it's a soft rebuild. Sometimes i wonder how much tape he watches, or does he simply rely on his scouts and friends in the business like Saban that he calls for advice on players.

Has Grier done some good? Yes. But not enough to offset the mediocrity overall. The Tunsil trade was amazing but he ruined that draft capital and gave up way too many picks to trade up for bad players. Some great cheap FA signings or creatively structured contracts offset but a ton of bad extensions. Again, just all over the place with vision and value for these players/positions...and a cap reckoning coming with all void years he's given recently.

I want the next GM to have a true vision. We all have differing ideas on how to build a roster and how to draft, and it's unrealistic to think we'll always agree....but i respect those who are strong in their beliefs, have the logic to justify it and are willing to put in the work and put their rep on the line for it...celebrating the successes and admitting the failures, not deflecting. That's what i want out of the next guy.
 
I dont think there is a big difference between talent with Jared Goff and Tua. Goff is just on much better team and better coaches. He's been to a super bowl as well. You can absolutely win a super bowl with a QB like Goff.
 
Chris Grier doesn't have a vision. He never has. He's a follower, not a leader as a GM. That's always been my biggest issue with him.
- He doesn't have a vision/blueprint for what he wants this franchise to be. For that, he relies on his HC hires instead of hiring coaches that fit what him and Ross want this organization to be.
- After bad hires, his over-reliance on the HC to dictate vision means there's no checks/balances come FA and draft time, so bad decisions are made on those fronts.
- When that coach fails, the next hire is the complete OPPOSITE of the previous coach...Gase to Flores to McD. The roster doesn't fit whatsoever, so after a few seasons of guys being bad scheme fits or playing next to one another with skillsets that don't mesh and failing as a team, that coach is fired and a new scheme comes in, meaning new players.
- Grier decided to double down and make it worse by keeping Boyer with McD, then firing him for Fangio, then cutting him loose for Weaver.....all different.

I could go through questionable draft pick after questionable draft pick but it makes no sense to get into the specific names bc others have done it here for me. But over-drafting guys at positions he neglected. Being awful at drafting OL. Seemingly being all over the place with positional value vs talent/BPA, one year seemingly drafting for now like you're making a SB push and the very next drafting for the future like it's a soft rebuild. Sometimes i wonder how much tape he watches, or does he simply rely on his scouts and friends in the business like Saban that he calls for advice on players.

Has Grier done some good? Yes. But not enough to offset the mediocrity overall. The Tunsil trade was amazing but he ruined that draft capital and gave up way too many picks to trade up for bad players. Some great cheap FA signings or creatively structured contracts offset but a ton of bad extensions. Again, just all over the place with vision and value for these players/positions...and a cap reckoning coming with all void years he's given recently.

I want the next GM to have a true vision. We all have differing ideas on how to build a roster and how to draft, and it's unrealistic to think we'll always agree....but i respect those who are strong in their beliefs, have the logic to justify it and are willing to put in the work and put their rep on the line for it...celebrating the successes and admitting the failures, not deflecting. That's what i want out of the next guy.
the best trade "grier made" which was the Tunsil trade was not initiated by grier. The Texans called and made us that big offer so it's not like grier made that trade happen ....it was handed to him but like you said, he has been horrible at using the picks and the money in free agency.
 
Chris Grier doesn't have a vision. He never has. He's a follower, not a leader as a GM. That's always been my biggest issue with him.
- He doesn't have a vision/blueprint for what he wants this franchise to be. For that, he relies on his HC hires instead of hiring coaches that fit what him and Ross want this organization to be.
- After bad hires, his over-reliance on the HC to dictate vision means there's no checks/balances come FA and draft time, so bad decisions are made on those fronts.
- When that coach fails, the next hire is the complete OPPOSITE of the previous coach...Gase to Flores to McD. The roster doesn't fit whatsoever, so after a few seasons of guys being bad scheme fits or playing next to one another with skillsets that don't mesh and failing as a team, that coach is fired and a new scheme comes in, meaning new players.
- Grier decided to double down and make it worse by keeping Boyer with McD, then firing him for Fangio, then cutting him loose for Weaver.....all different.

I could go through questionable draft pick after questionable draft pick but it makes no sense to get into the specific names bc others have done it here for me. But over-drafting guys at positions he neglected. Being awful at drafting OL. Seemingly being all over the place with positional value vs talent/BPA, one year seemingly drafting for now like you're making a SB push and the very next drafting for the future like it's a soft rebuild. Sometimes i wonder how much tape he watches, or does he simply rely on his scouts and friends in the business like Saban that he calls for advice on players.

Has Grier done some good? Yes. But not enough to offset the mediocrity overall. The Tunsil trade was amazing but he ruined that draft capital and gave up way too many picks to trade up for bad players. Some great cheap FA signings or creatively structured contracts offset but a ton of bad extensions. Again, just all over the place with vision and value for these players/positions...and a cap reckoning coming with all void years he's given recently.

I want the next GM to have a true vision. We all have differing ideas on how to build a roster and how to draft, and it's unrealistic to think we'll always agree....but i respect those who are strong in their beliefs, have the logic to justify it and are willing to put in the work and put their rep on the line for it...celebrating the successes and admitting the failures, not deflecting. That's what i want out of the next guy.
Holy **** I agree with all of this. I've been saying Grier has no vision tambien for the longest time. And then he hides behind the "I do what my coaches want" wall and that's how he's saved his ass over the years. Well, hopefully not this year.
 
Chris Grier doesn't have a vision. He never has. He's a follower, not a leader as a GM. That's always been my biggest issue with him.
- He doesn't have a vision/blueprint for what he wants this franchise to be. For that, he relies on his HC hires instead of hiring coaches that fit what him and Ross want this organization to be.
- After bad hires, his over-reliance on the HC to dictate vision means there's no checks/balances come FA and draft time, so bad decisions are made on those fronts.
- When that coach fails, the next hire is the complete OPPOSITE of the previous coach...Gase to Flores to McD. The roster doesn't fit whatsoever, so after a few seasons of guys being bad scheme fits or playing next to one another with skillsets that don't mesh and failing as a team, that coach is fired and a new scheme comes in, meaning new players.
- Grier decided to double down and make it worse by keeping Boyer with McD, then firing him for Fangio, then cutting him loose for Weaver.....all different.

I could go through questionable draft pick after questionable draft pick but it makes no sense to get into the specific names bc others have done it here for me. But over-drafting guys at positions he neglected. Being awful at drafting OL. Seemingly being all over the place with positional value vs talent/BPA, one year seemingly drafting for now like you're making a SB push and the very next drafting for the future like it's a soft rebuild. Sometimes i wonder how much tape he watches, or does he simply rely on his scouts and friends in the business like Saban that he calls for advice on players.

Has Grier done some good? Yes. But not enough to offset the mediocrity overall. The Tunsil trade was amazing but he ruined that draft capital and gave up way too many picks to trade up for bad players. Some great cheap FA signings or creatively structured contracts offset but a ton of bad extensions. Again, just all over the place with vision and value for these players/positions...and a cap reckoning coming with all void years he's given recently.

I want the next GM to have a true vision. We all have differing ideas on how to build a roster and how to draft, and it's unrealistic to think we'll always agree....but i respect those who are strong in their beliefs, have the logic to justify it and are willing to put in the work and put their rep on the line for it...celebrating the successes and admitting the failures, not deflecting. That's what i want out of the next guy.
This is a great post
 
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