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There are NO positives from the Seahawks game

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I am not a basher, but reading through the forum at all the people trying to look on the bright side, I am afraid I cannot agree at all.

The Dolphins have spent 15 years doing the same thing - losing important games in a variety of predictable ways. Today, we played a good team who are clearly in decline who came out on an off day, and we should have easily won the game. Every team in the NFL is close talent wise, which is why the Dolphins can hang with the Seahawks. But, as usual, we lost.

NFL games are won by players who make key plays in critical situations. There were at least six key plays in this game and if we had made any of them, we would have won. But we missed on them all.

Gase and the new coaching staff were meant to impose a new culture. To me, today they looked EXACTLY like a Joe Philbin team. Yes, they hung tough and did better than expected. But when the big plays needed to be made, they folded. When the big coaching calls were there to be made, they got them wrong.

As usual, half the fan base just wants to say Tannehill was not the reason we lost. The facts are that once again he went missing at JUST the time that any really good QB would have put the game away. Yes, he had drops. But in the 2nd and 3rd quarters we have the Seahawks and Russell Wilson on the ropes and Tannehill produced **** all, as usual. He finally shows up on the last drive but in reality he left his D (who had been on the field way too much time thanks to our offence) with 4 minutes to defend a very slim lead against a great comeback QB. A good QB would have put that game away instead of leaving his D in that situation. He didn't look any different that the last 5 years - some great plays plus a bunch of clutch plays where he couldn't get it done. He is not uniquely to blame, but we have to stop making endless excuses. Franchise QBs don't play like this. If we expect to ever win, he has to play much better in the clutch.

The coaching was disappointing. The O gameplay was poor although the OL was solid until late on. The D was great until the last drive. But as usual, when the chips were down and Seattle's players stood up to be counted, our OL folded and the DL stopped getting any pressure on an injured QB, partly at least due to our DC suddenly turning into Philbin and playing it safe in the base zone defence for the final drive. It was predictable, and we have seen it all before.

The reason the Dolphins have been mediocre for decades is that they look at games like this and say 'gee, we were close, we are getting better, there are so many positives'. There are not. It was an unacceptable loss given the situation for an NFL team. We are just making excuses. I hope that Gase tells his players that if they lose a game again in that manner, there are going to people unemployed. If we continue to accept incompetence and lack of character we will never see this turn around. In the NFL you take your chances. We had a glorious chance and we blew it not because the other team beat us, but because we have a culture where no player really takes responsibility for making the plays that we need when we need them.
 
You are wrong. To pass final judgement on this entire team and coaching staff based on their very first game is not fair.
 
I think I might just add my rant here. It's groundhog day. Could week 1 have been more frustrating than this? It feels like we're going through this year after year after year. When the dust has settled it's the Patriots on top of the division. Missing Brady and Gronkowski? At Arizona? No problem. No matter the odds, the Patriots will come through. They are 1-0 and everyone else in the AFC East is 0-1. The Jets or Bills will win a game next week just because they're playing each other. We're losing at New England next week because that's what we do (losing) and that's what they do (winning). The bottom line is, what we learned from the 1st week of football 2016 is that the Patriots are going to run away with the division title once again.

And I have no other explanation than karma. It doesn't matter how much player and coach turnover we have every year. We miss the 27 yard field goal to lose the game and the Cardinals miss the 47 yard field goal to win the game for the Patriots. If you switched out the Patriots and the Dolphins in those two games, you'd bet the Patriots would make the 27 yarder and the Cardinals would make the 47 yarder against us. It's not a fluke thing, this is what's so frustrating to watch. Things like that seem to happen over and over again.

We're getting blown out in Seattle 9 out of 10 times. In hat one game where you have a chance you have to ****ing grab that chance. If before the game someone had told me we're going to take the lead with 4 minutes to go, I would have laughed that guy off. And there we were, right in the game but we couldn't close it out. Again. And the most frustrating part is that we didn't lose because the Seahawks beat us, no, we lost because we beat us. So I went back and looked at the games since 2012 where I feel we win if we could just make routine football plays instead of dumb things. This is the list:
- Wk3 2012, 20-23 (OT) against the Jets. Missed a 47 yard field goal in regulation and missed another 47 yard field goal in overtime.
- Wk4 2012, 21-24 (OT) against the Cardinals. Missed a 51 yard field goal in regulation and lost the game in overtime.

- Wk5 2013, 23-26 against the Ravens. Brandon Gibson falls down after catching a pass on 4th down to keep the potential game-winning drive alive. We have to settle for a potential game-tying 57 yard field goal try which is no good.
- Wk7 2013, 21-23 against the Bills. See below.
- Wk12 2013, 16-20 against the Panthers. We missed a 53 yard field goal which forced us to go for the TD late and Tannehill hit Wallace from 60 yards out but Wallace let it slip through his hands. No TD, no points, game over.

- Wk6 24-27 against the Packers. I don't need to talk about this one, right?
- WK10 16-20 against the Lions. Tannehill hits Clay in the endzone who drops the pass. We have to settle for a field goal and the Lions score the game winning TD just before time runs out.
- Wk12 36-39 against the Broncos. We hold a 28-17 lead going into the last quarter against the Broncos. Denver scores 22 points in that 4th quarter and wins the game.

- Wk2 20-23 against the Jaguars. Unnecessary roughness penalty on Olivier Vernon on the Jaguars' game winning drive. They kick the field goal to win it.
- Wk16 12-18 against the Colts (Charlie Whitehurst!). 4th and goal at the Colts' 5 with seconds to play. Tannehill gets sacked because with the exception of the center, the entire offensive line is not ready for the play and they just stand there and watch.

These are just the 10 most frustrating games in the last 4 years. Think about that. Not beaten by a better team but beaten by ourselves. 10 times in 4 years. I'm pretty sure most teams can say the same and it's probably equally frustrating for their fans. This is just the difference between good and bad teams and I have to say I do not believe we're a good team this year because we keep making the same stupid mistakes.

Yesterday's game has the feel of the game at home against the Buffalo Bills in 2013. We had the lead late, were trying to run out the clock, Tannehill got strip-sacked, Buffalo (Dan Carpenter I might add) kicked the game winning field goal and when the season was done, we were one game out of the playoffs. The problem is, if you want to make the playoffs and you're not the Patriots or the Packers who can afford to lose a game here or there, you have to win these games. We're going to lose games which are not that close and if you are in close games you have to find a way to win these to have a real chance at the postseason. If this is the game that will keep us out of the playoffs, I want to see heads rolling. Yes, I am talking to you, Kenny Stills, Andrew Franks and Darren Rizzi.

Kenny Stills has worn out his welcome in my opinion. He needs to step up big time if he wants to stay with the Dolphins. He's in a contract year and when the season is over and we negotiate a new contract with him, yesterday's dropped pass is a play I would show him repeatedly during contract negotiations.

I don't understand what is so good about Darren Rizzi that he keeps his job with the Dolphins. It seems that special teams always have some stupid penalties and they miss all critical field goals. What's he so good at? And don't get me started on Andrew Franks! I would cut him today. We can find a guy on the street who misses 28 yard field goals. I have no confidence whatsoever in him that he could make a critical field goal.

The defense had a really great game yesterday. I loved watching them play because I had not expected something like that. Russell Wilson is one of the most difficult QBs (when healthy) to defend and they did a helluva job. Kudos to Vance Joseph. We might have found something there. But (and it seems there's always a "but" with the Dolphins) they still allowed the game winning TD against a QB with a bad ankle. Two 4th downs on that drive. One play. One play was all we needed and there's just nobody on the team who makes that one play to win the game.

The offense on the other hand could not figure out the Seahawks' zone defense the entire game. Going for it on 4th and inches in the first half is a good call in my opinion. You win that call more often than not. Yesterday, we did not win. What I don't understand is on the 3rd down before that, why does Cameron run the route one inch short? He should know where the first down marker is. I still like Gase as a head coach and I still have high hopes for him but it will be interesting to see how he handles situations with players that time and again prove they cannot make routine football plays.

I don't think we stand a chance at Foxboro next week. But now this is a game we need to have. We have to be 2-2 after the first four games and we're not going to beat the Bengals in Cincinnati on a short week. We have to beat the Patriots at their house. I had to rant because one more time I lost sleep over the Miami Dolphins. And I'm afraid it wasn't the last time.
 
I am not amused by the result and think our team has massive probs, but the OP is simply total nonsense.
 
Yawn. Glad I just read the title of the thread..
 
This post is very humorous! If you cannot see the difference in the run defense today, then you are blind. The Seahawks lose very few games at home. The Seahawks were the number one ranked team. Many of you were predicting a blow out.

There were plenty of issues during this game, but I just do not see a reason for your rant.
 
Funny thing is this place might have the same crap in every thread even if we won.
 
It's Tannehill's fault they scored with 4 minutes left? I mean damn, what is he and the offense thinking taking the lead late in the game vs the team that was the most favored team coming into Week 1?
 
I am not a basher, but reading through the forum at all the people trying to look on the bright side, I am afraid I cannot agree at all.

The Dolphins have spent 15 years doing the same thing - losing important games in a variety of predictable ways. Today, we played a good team who are clearly in decline who came out on an off day, and we should have easily won the game. Every team in the NFL is close talent wise, which is why the Dolphins can hang with the Seahawks. But, as usual, we lost.

NFL games are won by players who make key plays in critical situations. There were at least six key plays in this game and if we had made any of them, we would have won. But we missed on them all.

Gase and the new coaching staff were meant to impose a new culture. To me, today they looked EXACTLY like a Joe Philbin team. Yes, they hung tough and did better than expected. But when the big plays needed to be made, they folded. When the big coaching calls were there to be made, they got them wrong.

As usual, half the fan base just wants to say Tannehill was not the reason we lost. The facts are that once again he went missing at JUST the time that any really good QB would have put the game away. Yes, he had drops. But in the 2nd and 3rd quarters we have the Seahawks and Russell Wilson on the ropes and Tannehill produced **** all, as usual. He finally shows up on the last drive but in reality he left his D (who had been on the field way too much time thanks to our offence) with 4 minutes to defend a very slim lead against a great comeback QB. A good QB would have put that game away instead of leaving his D in that situation. He didn't look any different that the last 5 years - some great plays plus a bunch of clutch plays where he couldn't get it done. He is not uniquely to blame, but we have to stop making endless excuses. Franchise QBs don't play like this. If we expect to ever win, he has to play much better in the clutch.

The coaching was disappointing. The O gameplay was poor although the OL was solid until late on. The D was great until the last drive. But as usual, when the chips were down and Seattle's players stood up to be counted, our OL folded and the DL stopped getting any pressure on an injured QB, partly at least due to our DC suddenly turning into Philbin and playing it safe in the base zone defence for the final drive. It was predictable, and we have seen it all before.

The reason the Dolphins have been mediocre for decades is that they look at games like this and say 'gee, we were close, we are getting better, there are so many positives'. There are not. It was an unacceptable loss given the situation for an NFL team. We are just making excuses. I hope that Gase tells his players that if they lose a game again in that manner, there are going to people unemployed. If we continue to accept incompetence and lack of character we will never see this turn around. In the NFL you take your chances. We had a glorious chance and we blew it not because the other team beat us, but because we have a culture where no player really takes responsibility for making the plays that we need when we need them.

Jaded as the old uniforms

Oh yeah, thanks Obama
 
For the last 45 years of watching the Dolphins, there has never been a single game under any of our coaches when there were no positives to take from a game. Your topic title is ludicrous!

I will give you a positive. Carroo made a nice play versus Sherman on the go ahead drive in the 4th quarter. Carroo did not drop any balls during the game. IAQ is a solid addition to the defense. Howard did not get beat for a touchdown in his first NFL game as a rookie starter.
 
This is a great overreaction, this team was supposed to lose by a good margin and the defense held Seattle to 12 points. I would take that away from this game AT LEAST; you also had Foster look pretty good in the offense and Tannehill hit a nice deep ball, sucks that Stills didn't catch it, but it's only one game. I guess if you thought this was a playoff team, you got nothing out of this game.
 
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