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They Yankees are going to build a new stadium. $800 million. No tax payer dollars. No g'ment money. No state aid. Paid for in full by the NY Yankees!

Not to mention the old (current) Yankee stadium will be right next door in the shadows and not torn down. But used for youth and other city events.

Ground will break next summer and the they will start playing Opening day 2009!

What will make this stadium unique is it will look "exactly" like the old Yankee stadium from the 20's and when you go to get concessions..... on any level of the stadium, you still will be able to see the field and not have to miss the action.
 

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OLD. Surronding area needs work. Granted they are moving next door, but the city is spending $300 mill to build a train and railroad transportaion making it easier for fans to get to the stadium. IN the area of the "new" stadium.

Plus, with the recent influx of all-stars like A-Rod, Randy, Hidaki...attendance has gone THROUGH THE ROOF. The Yanks don't have enough LUXERY BOXES to accomadte all the requests. The new stadium will be state of the art, and will be able to hold much much much MUCH more luxery boxes which is where the big $$$$$$$$$ is. The Yanks will make a boatload more money on luxery boxes.

Plus, the new stadium will hold only 50,000 which is 7,000 less than the current stadium. Which means seats become more premium since there are fewer and you can jack up the prices on them. Another smart business move since tickets are in high demand now as it is.
 

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MikeO said:
OLD. Surronding area needs work. Granted they are moving next door, but the city is spending $300 mill to build a train and railroad transportaion making it easier for fans to get to the stadium. IN the area of the "new" stadium.

Plus, with the recent influx of all-stars like A-Rod, Randy, Hidaki...attendance has gone THROUGH THE ROOF. The Yanks don't have enough LUXERY BOXES to accomadte all the requests. The new stadium will be state of the art, and will be able to hold much much much MUCH more luxery boxes which is where the big $$$$$$$$$ is. The Yanks will make a boatload more money on luxery boxes.

Plus, the new stadium will hold only 50,000 which is 7,000 less than the current stadium. Which means seats become more premium since there are fewer and you can jack up the prices on them. Another smart business move since tickets are in high demand now as it is.
If this is the case, the disparity of financial resources is going to grow even larger. I don't know how the Red Sox are going to be able to stay competitive financially with the Yankees, especially after recently announcing they plan to stay at Fenway for years to come.

I've been to Yankee Stadium 4 or 5 times, looking at the surrounding area, there's no room to put a new stadium AND keep the old one without taking down some exisiting infrastructure. Would that be accurate??
 

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The Red Sox just announed they are adding 1,000 luxery seats (seats not boxes) to their stadium. I wouldn't worry too much.

You are correct, they are building the new stadium NORTH of the current stadium. Tearing down a bunch of stuff and building the stadium and the city is going to add some railroad/train transportation which would be a HUGE upgrade for the area.
 

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Boston's biggest mistake over the years has been Fenway. If they tore that down years ago they would have won a championship sooner and probably numerous championships.

The stadium is built so every GM in the history of the team (until now) went out and overpaid for BIGHT RIGHT HAND BAT TO HIT BALL OVER SHORT LEFT FIELD and BIG WALL! See caveman hit ball far! Urrrrrrrrrr.

That type of attitude. And it backfired every time. They never spent money on speed or starting pitching (until last year). The attraction of short left field and big powerful right hand bat to hit ball over wall just fooled EVERY and I mean EVERY GM for decades. They all did the same thing, go out sign big right hand bat.....hope for increased production because of short left field. And EVERY time. EVERY TIME.......those players went to Boston and their careers went downhill.

I guarntee you if Boston built a regular stadium, with the #2 payroll in MLB........they would win championships on a regular basis.
 

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Fenway is a part of history... Just like Yankee Stadium is. I think it's a mistake. Some things should never change.
 

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Fenway is a part of history... Just like Yankee Stadium is. I think it's a mistake. Some things should never change.
Progress! Times change things change. Time to move on and upgrade.

It's those that are ahead of the curve that stay on top the longest.

Besides, they can now keep (current) YANKEE STADIUM open after 2009, have monument park. Charge people $10 for a tour and make a boatload of money there. Boston has those daily $10 tours now on a daily basis and they make good money off that. An empty Yankee stadium, sh*t you could run those a few times a day. People wouldn't pay money to stand at home plate, run the bases, and see monument park at Yankee Stadium! LOL!

Business is business and these are smart business moves to add more revnue.
 

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"That type of attitude. And it backfired every time. They never spent money on speed or starting pitching (until last year). The attraction of short left field and big powerful right hand bat to hit ball over wall just fooled EVERY and I mean EVERY GM for decades. They all did the same thing, go out sign big right hand bat.....hope for increased production because of short left field. And EVERY time. EVERY TIME.......those players went to Boston and their careers went downhill."

agree with your assessment and highly suggest reading the book "Moneyball" if you have not done so. the author picked up on the thick-headed mentality among baseball "insiders" who use the same conventional wisdom in all aspects of the game and protect each other's job at the sacrifice of innovation and change,even when the need for change is slapping them in the face.

the book focuses on Billy Bean (A's GM) a great deal and how they began evaluating players differently than the other teams, allowing them to compete with big market clubs (like the Sox and yankees) with loose purse strings while having one of the 5 lowest payrolls year in and year out.

current Sox GM Theo Epstein is a disciple of this thought process as well, and other teams have begun coming around as well, hiring away many of the A's front office staff and implementing the same type of personnel decision making and player evaluations. the currently Blue Jays and Dodgers GMs are guys who were formally Oakland A's front office people under Billy Bean. Toronto and LA have gotten better the last couple years at a cheaper rate, and this year are leading the AL east and NL west so far using their new philosophy.

Epstein has an advantage over the other GMs in LA and Toronto in that he has an owner who will spend the money on big names when necessary if they want to add someone.
 

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Billy Bean and "moneyball" is overrated also.

When its Game 5 of the playoffs, bases loaded and 2 outs, and you pinch hit for a .290 hitter with a .230 hitter because the computer print-out says you should and you are not supposed to go off the computer print out...... then I have no respect for "moneyball". Also, that isn't losing because you are a small market club with no money, that is losing becuase you are a moron!

(this is what Oakland did 2 years ago in the ALDS vs Boston)
 
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