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This contract definitely wasn't based on the Joe Thomas deal

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Jake Long got 30% more guaranteed money than Joe Thomas and 35% more in total $$ value over 5 years.
So they definitely didn't base his contract off of Thomas like alot of us thought they would.

He also got more guaranteed money and a higher annual average than Calvin Johnson.

He got less in total guarantees than Jamarcus Russell, but signed for one less year and has a higher annual average. ($11.5M for Long, $10.16M for Russell)

Looks like we really didn't get any discount whatsoever, if we had gone for the 6th year then Long's deal would have eclipsed Russell's it seems.
 
Lenny said:
Jake Long got 30% more guaranteed money than Joe Thomas and 35% more in total $$ value over 5 years.
So they definitely didn't base his contract off of Thomas like alot of us thought they would.

He also got more guaranteed money and a higher annual average than Calvin Johnson.

He got less in total guarantees than Jamarcus Russell, but signed for one less year and has a higher annual average. ($11.5M for Long, $10.16M for Russell)

Looks like we really didn't get any discount whatsoever, if we had gone for the 6th year then Long's deal would have eclipsed Russell's it seems.
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Why would you expect the number one overall pick to make less than the 2nd and 3rd pick of last year?
 
That was the whole point of trying to sign Jake Long before the draft to potentially save money.
 
SpaceMountain16 said:
Why would you expect the number one overall pick to make less than the 2nd and 3rd pick of last year?
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Where have you been hiding? We've been having these discussions for weeks and every sportswriter in the country has been writing about the fact that there's no clear cut #1 player in this draft and that Parcells was going to make a lowball offer and pick the first player who accepted it.

If nothing else I expected the deal to have a lower annual average than what the #1 overall last year got, since he was a QB.

Jake Long is going to make 35% more than the next highest paid offensive lineman in the league, and he's never played a snap in the NFL.
 
The fact is that it is still the number 1 pick. The hopes for signing him for less money was a dream of all of ours, but it just didn't and probably couldn't happen that way. Look, we should still be SUPER happy that we signed him before he could hold out well into training camp and who knows into the season maybe. Like a poster said before, it is not continuing up the normal mountain that and steady increase that the last numbers 1 picks have gotten. We still won in my book. Go Dolphins, and Thanks!
 
the number one pick, is the number one pick.

the value of being the number one pick as a player is that you will probably be the highest player in the draft, and normally make more money that your number 1 draft pick predecessor.

If anyone expected Jake Long not to get 30 million guaranteed they are foolish.
 
The idea is to get him in camp so he spends 100% of this offseason with our coaches. Saving money was I'm sure second. We did get him for less than the "standard" markup every year. This was a good move for out FO.


Everything else is sour grapes.
 
Phinja said:
The idea is to get him in camp so he spends 100% of this offseason with our coaches. Saving money was I'm sure second. We did get him for less than the "standard" markup every year. This was a good move for out FO.


Everything else is sour grapes.
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exactly. if he misses camp, then he surely wouldn't be ready for LT in the NFL - a LT making what he does at least.
 
im just so glad that the front office made the selection based on their top prospect. Money didn't play a factor obviously. This is what should have happened. You think he is the best player, don't pass on him over a couple $.

Great job!!!
 
I think what they were after was less guaranteed money... Because it causes Huge aggravation in the cap... Jake 30 mil... Russel was 39 mil. Essentially as I understand it the guaranteed money stays with the team that offers it even when the player moves unlike the salary which is transferred with the player. This is how teams get in HUGE holes and end up with massive cap hits based on guarantees.

simple explanation here.. 'if the player is released, traded or waived, all of the bonus money that was being prorated throughout the length of the contract is accelerated to the present year.'
 
Isaiah Thomas getting $18mil from the Knicks to do nothing sort of puts Jake's annual compensation into perspective. I've got no problems with the way this deal was structured and am delighted by the speed and efficiency of the FO.

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