This is like 2017 and 2018 with Gase

[bane]

I really like our coach and I was impressed that he got us in the playoffs two years in row. Mostly because we never make the playoffs since 2022. Also our coaches usually have good first season then fall apart year 2.
But year 2 we made the playoffs with 11 wins after making the playoffs with 9 wins. I thought maybe we have a long term guy.

I started having concerns when I saw the offseason plan was really weak in the trenches. Including the dline.

Then the soft camp.

When we had Gase we started getting tons of injuries, tons of penalites and our butts kicked badly or won close games. I realize that we blew many teams out the last two years. I know they were not that good either. But in the nfl if you beat bad and average teams you will most likely get to the playoffs. Every teams schedule has 7 or 8 very winnable games against those types of teams.

But we are starting to get blow out a now with under this coaching regime. We have tons of penalties. We have tons of injuries.
Our offense seems figured out. We are running all these behind the line plays passing and running because we can't hold up on the line.
Eventually when you run so many plays behind line of scrimmage you get called for a penalty or lose yards. Then you are behind the sticks.

There really is not a fix we can do right now and that really sucks.

I guess if we play huntley maybe he can put a band aid over this but I don' know if he can. Its not like he won a lot of games with the ravens and they were a better when he filled in for them than what we have now.

Boyle will probably start monday which insures another loss. I am so disappointed. I was concerned this team might miss the playoffs before the season started because of the trenches I thought other teams like the jets would be better, chargers and steelers. I was only thinking wild card at start of season. So it was not like I had high expectations like others. I was hoping we could make playoffs again.

what we have now looks like a full rebuild and moving on from tua who I love. Along with others. It really sucks.

They have a system that only tua can play in it seems. Seems like any other qb really struggles in it. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe bridgewater, skylar, and white all suck. Seems like we were built on a house of cards and without tua we just flopped hard.

Even with my lowered expectations , I am so upset with this team. Especially live in western pa where steelers are proving you can win with average qbs when you build and draft correctly.

I just needed to vent. Thanks!

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

You know, there's a common denominator between the Gase tenure and the McDaniel tenure. Wonder what it could be.

 

[Ryan1973]

You know, there's a common denominator between the Gase tenure and the McDaniel tenure. Wonder what it could be.

I would say Ross and Grier!

 

[AZFINSFANFORLIFE]

Thanks. This team is soft, poorly coached, have drafted terribly and has had a country club atmosphere for years. It will take a disciplinarian like Shula was in his prime, a JJ type of coach who will work the sh*t out of these players in the hot sun and cut players on the spot. Until then we are what we are. Soft!!!!!!

 

[ForksPhin]

You know, there's a common denominator between the Gase tenure and the McDaniel tenure. Wonder what it could be.

And the Philbin tenure. And the Flores tenure.

But we may be thinking of a different common denominator.

 

[ForksPhin]

One thing about playoff appearances….14 out of 32 teams make the playoffs now. Playoff appearances are almost a minimum for a competent franchise now.

 

[teemu7]

This reminds me more of cam cameron ..pure unadulterated incompetence end to end.

 

[gofins60]

They have a system that only tua can play in it seems. Seems like any other qb really struggles in it. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe bridgewater, skylar, and white all suck. Seems like we were built on a house of cards and without tua we just flopped hard.

IMO, it makes no sense to run an offense that only works with a certain QB, especially if that QB has a history of injuries. The ONLY way this would be doable would be if you had a back-up QB with the exact same skill set as the starter. Miami is in the situation they're in now because they don't have a Tua clone as a back-up, and McDaniel either can't or won't run a different style of offense without Tua. And, even if he could/would, the o-line he and Grier built for his Tua-based offense is incapable of being competent in a "normal" offense without Tua.

 

[bane]

IMO, it makes no sense to run an offense that only works with a certain QB, especially if that QB has a history of injuries. The ONLY way this would be doable would be if you had a back-up QB with the exact same skill set as the starter. Miami is in the situation they're in now because they don't have a Tua clone as a back-up, and McDaniel either can't or won't run a different style of offense without Tua. And, even if he could/would, the o-line he and Grier built for his Tua-based offense is incapable of being competent in a "normal" offense without Tua.

pretty much.

 

[sn9ke.eyes]

I really like our coach and I was impressed that he got us in the playoffs two years in row. Mostly because we never make the playoffs since 2022. Also our coaches usually have good first season then fall apart year 2.
But year 2 we made the playoffs with 11 wins after making the playoffs with 9 wins. I thought maybe we have a long term guy.

I started having concerns when I saw the offseason plan was really weak in the trenches. Including the dline.

Then the soft camp.

When we had Gase we started getting tons of injuries, tons of penalites and our butts kicked badly or won close games. I realize that we blew many teams out the last two years. I know they were not that good either. But in the nfl if you beat bad and average teams you will most likely get to the playoffs. Every teams schedule has 7 or 8 very winnable games against those types of teams.

But we are starting to get blow out a now with under this coaching regime. We have tons of penalties. We have tons of injuries.
Our offense seems figured out. We are running all these behind the line plays passing and running because we can't hold up on the line.
Eventually when you run so many plays behind line of scrimmage you get called for a penalty or lose yards. Then you are behind the sticks.

There really is not a fix we can do right now and that really sucks.

I guess if we play huntley maybe he can put a band aid over this but I don' know if he can. Its not like he won a lot of games with the ravens and they were a better when he filled in for them than what we have now.

Boyle will probably start monday which insures another loss. I am so disappointed. I was concerned this team might miss the playoffs before the season started because of the trenches I thought other teams like the jets would be better, chargers and steelers. I was only thinking wild card at start of season. So it was not like I had high expectations like others. I was hoping we could make playoffs again.

what we have now looks like a full rebuild and moving on from tua who I love. Along with others. It really sucks.

They have a system that only tua can play in it seems. Seems like any other qb really struggles in it. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe bridgewater, skylar, and white all suck. Seems like we were built on a house of cards and without tua we just flopped hard.

Even with my lowered expectations , I am so upset with this team. Especially live in western pa where steelers are proving you can win with average qbs when you build and draft correctly.

I just needed to vent. Thanks!

I'm upset with the Dolphins too, but don't let the Steelers fool you. With the QBs they have, it's going to be regular season wins, not playoff wins.

 

[NY8123]

Ummm.... No. This is in no way like the Gase fiasco, that dude needed unicorns to run his offense.

 

[67Stang]

The common thread is the GM and lack of addressing the OL. We actually had at least an average O-Line when Pouncey, Albert, and James were all healthy, which did not happen a lot. It is crazy, we won like almost 90% of our games when those 3 players all played. The drop off if one of those players went down was horrific.

Right now we have another often injured LT, and a whole bunch of people who would be 2nd and 3rd stringers on most teams. Grier's inability to even come close to fielding an OL that is in the top 15 is why we have not won a playoff game since what, 2001? That dude needs to be fired yesterday!

 

[royalshank]

You know, there's a common denominator between the Gase tenure and the McDaniel tenure. Wonder what it could be.

Joe Cimino?

 

[royalshank]

The common thread is the GM and lack of addressing the OL. We actually had at least an average O-Line when Pouncey, Albert, and James were all healthy, which did not happen a lot. It is crazy, we won like almost 90% of our games when those 3 players all played. The drop off if one of those players went down was horrific.

Right now we have another often injured LT, and a whole bunch of people who would be 2nd and 3rd stringers on most teams. Grier's inability to even come close to fielding an OL that is in the top 15 is why we have not won a playoff game since what, 2001? That dude needs to be fired yesterday!

But “you’re worried about the o-line more than we are”

 

[royalshank]

I'm upset with the Dolphins too, but don't let the Steelers fool you. With the QBs they have, it's going to be regular season wins, not playoff wins.

While true, it is amazing that organization can win and at least make the playoffs with Mason Rudolph and Justin Fields etc. When you are tough in the trenches you will at least always be competitive.