This is what ruins it for the media

[NatCyn]

I'm going to rant for a second. I'm getting really tired of the constant griping from the media about how athletes and sports teams (not just head coaches) are purposely standoffish, etc...

Here's a golden example of why. Yesterday on PTI, after nailing Saban for being dishonest, lying to everyone and being a dick to the media, they play a clip of the end of Wayne's press conference where he says, "If you all have any suggestions or comments, we value your opinion."

Now this was Wayne just being nice, and I think it was more directed to the Dolphins fans and the community to the media, but it was a nice, classy gesture. And they in turn used it to paint the Dolphins as incompetent. Well no wonder no one wants to talk to the media, everything you say is libel to be used against you in any way it can be. I just love how the media (not the whole media, but you definitely can think of examples) complains about their relationship with the teams and players they cover and how no one ever wants to talk to them, but then they turn around make moves like that which do nothing to endear them to those same players and coaches they complain about. It's a double-edged sword.

 

[Slappy8800]

without the media, those players and coaches arent making millions of dollars a year.

sticks and stones may break my bones...yadda yadda

 

[NatCyn]

I don't mean media in the TV broadcast sense. I more mean media in terms of the individual personalities you see, the columnists, tv hosts (Jim Rome, Tony Kornheiser) and sports radio personalities. The *******s.

 

[finfan54]

The media do no wrong. Everyone else does.

 

[PTCIman]

Ya know....Wayne is a smart man...I think he got caught up in the emotion of it all and was trying to hard to bridge the gap between the organization and media which Saban created. He is taking some hits in the media, but like anything else, it will pass. The media are what they are...you can't have em as your friends, but you dont want them as your enemy either. Wayne erred on those comments.....what else can you say. It gives the impression of instability......would you want your doctor asking you for advise on treatment for your coronary artery disease? You'd be a little (alot actualy) nervous with that kind of question. Same principle here.

 

[Slappy8800]

I don't mean media in the TV broadcast sense. I more mean media in terms of the individual personalities you see, the columnists, tv hosts (Jim Rome, Tony Kornheiser) and sports radio personalities. The *******s.

see my first post....without those people, noone pays attention to the athletes and if noone pays attention to them, they dont get paid.

 

[EAZY 0]

without the media, those players and coaches arent making millions of dollars a year.

sticks and stones may break my bones...yadda yadda

i hope you are refering to media in the sense of television contracts and such...

bc it seems to me that losers like Alex Marvez are parasites making a living off the athletes they try to destroy

 

[NYinBostonFin]

On one side you are happy that PTI went off on Saban, then the next thing you say is they shouldnt go off on Wayne. You cant have it both ways.

And I always wondered if people hate shows were reporters give opinions, why are you watching them?

To be quite honest, it didn't make me comfortable being a Dolphin fan hearing Wayne basically say, "Any Ideas? Anyone? I'm all out". If reporters didn't comment on that I would have been amazed.

 

[3rd and long]

see my first post....without those people, noone pays attention to the athletes and if noone pays attention to them, they dont get paid.

Wrong. If not for the game, then no one pays attention to the columnists who cover the game. The game is the initial draw, then the two feed off of each other symbiotically.

The media is frustrating in the way that they ask questions. Coaches can't say they're taking the Alabama job w/ 3 weeks to go in the season. Then they call him a liar. If you don't want to be lied to, don't ask a question that can't possibly be given a straight answer.

The media's "holier than thou" attitude annoys me. If you don't answer their questions they label you as a bad guy. You know "Freedom of Speech" also pertains to the citizens right to make no comment, or to refrain from addressing a certain topic. It seems like the media wants to use "Freedom of Speech" to say whatever they want, but not to respect the same fundamental principle applied differently by a different entity. I despise their arrogance.

 

[NatCyn]

I suppose you're right about the interest in the league being media-driven. My point was more that it'd ridiculous that personalities within the media can legitimately complain about anyone not talking to them when they turn around make the players and people that do talk to them look like idiots anytime they say anything that can be used that way.

It goes the other way too, sometimes a player deserves it, but yesterday irritated me because after complaining for a couple years about the stranglehold Nick Saban had on all the news in and and out of Dolphins camp, for them to turn around when Huizenga reaches out to them and play that up as incompetence is just ******ed. Way to sustain that goodwill gesture by postering Wayne as another idiot owner.

 

[MadDawg020]

Wrong. If not for the game, then no one pays attention to the columnists who cover the game. The game is the initial draw, then the two feed off of each other symbiotically.

The media is frustrating in the way that they ask questions. Coaches can't say they're taking the Alabama job w/ 3 weeks to go in the season. Then they call him a liar. If you don't want to be lied to, don't ask a question that can't possibly be given a straight answer.

The media's "holier than thou" attitude annoys me. If you don't answer their questions they label you as a bad guy. You know "Freedom of Speech" also pertains to the citizens right to make no comment, or to refrain from addressing a certain topic. It seems like the media wants to use "Freedom of Speech" to say whatever they want, but not to respect the same fundamental principle applied differently by a different entity. I despise their arrogance.

That's true. Don Shula on Mike & Mike this morning was asked how Saban should've responded to the Alabama questions. Shula basically said that rather than lying, he should've just said that his focus for the rest of the season is on the Dolphins and left it at that. Of course, Shula is 100x the classier person than Saban.

 

[NatCyn]

On one side you are happy that PTI went off on Saban, then the next thing you say is they shouldnt go off on Wayne. You cant have it both ways.

And I always wondered if people hate shows were reporters give opinions, why are you watching them?

To be quite honest, it didn't make me comfortable being a Dolphin fan hearing Wayne basically say, "Any Ideas? Anyone? I'm all out". If reporters didn't comment on that I would have been amazed.

Whoa, whoa, where in my post did I say I was "happy" they went off on Saban. I just said that they made a point of saying how bad he was with the media.

 

[NYinBostonFin]

Whoa, whoa, where in my post did I say I was "happy" they went off on Saban. I just said that they made a point of saying how bad he was with the media.

Maybe I misread, but it seems you were happy until they ripped Wayne.

If that wasn't what you were saying let me ask just to ask... Were you happy they ripped Saban?

 

[3rd and long]

Typical of ESPN. They love to edit clips and apply them out of context. I saw Wayne's whole press-conference, and I don't know how anyone could come away not impressed with him and his determination to build a winner.

 

[tcdrover]

It's pathetic, but that is a much bigger problem than just with sports media.

Journalists in general today have EXTREMELY twisted standards....

Remember last year with Saban's little quote about not caring about the score or winning?

The media had a field day with that one.