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Three Penn State prospects

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There are three players on Penn State this season that would be worth a mid-or-higher 1R pick in my opinion.

I've discussed Drew Allar in the QB thread. I see him as a potential Ben Roethlisberger-plus who's elevated his play to the point now where I'd have him at the top of the class at his position this year ... I didn't have him that high six weeks ago, but his accuracy and decision making has taken a dramatic step upward, his arm talent is as good as it gets, he's tough, plays with an edge and he's doing it without elite WRs. However, the word up this way is that there's a pretty good shot Allar stays in college for another year even if he's projected to get drafted near the very top. He does still have things to work on and tune up.

The other two guys are Edge/LB Abdul Carter and TE Tyler Warren.

If you were wondering why Chop Robinson hasn't been what we were told he'd be, the reason is Abdul Carter. Carter's been the focus of opposing offenses for a couple of years, and that gave Chop the opportunity to feast while blocking schemes were geared to keep Carter from going wild.

Carter's also had some position changes.

Carter's a better pass rusher than Chop. He's quicker, faster and stronger, and he's more instinctive. He's one of those guys that just won't let himself be denied.

He's not just a pass rusher, either. He plays the run well and he has a great motor. The last game he tracked a Purdue runner the whole way across the field through traffic and got him for a minimal gain.

He has had a problem with jumping the count and drawing penalties, but he's a problem for opposing offenses. He's Micah Parsons-like, but I think he's just a tick below Parsons, who was one of the greatest natural talents and instinctive players I've ever seen in person.

Warren's something else. If you haven't watched him, go to YouTube and check out his highlights.

If you were impressed with what Bowers did against the Dolphins today, Warren's going to be even better. He's in the Kelce/Kittle stratosphere.

With the potential to be even more.

Warren's a unicorn, a 6-5, 260-pound athletic freak who plays the game like Mike Ditka. He's a former HS quarterback who has played every position on offense.

He had 17 receptions in a win at USC, when he snapped the ball and caught a 40-plus yard TD one-handed on the same play. Last night at Purdue, he had 200 yards of offense, rushing 45 yards for a touchdown from the shotgun.

For my money, there's no player that offers more versatility coming into the pro game, not even Hunter from Colorado. He's very tough. He blocks extremely well. He has fantastic hands and has made several one-handed catches in traffic this season. He's not just a runner in the wildcat; he can throw the ball decently. He had above-average speed and tremendous leaping ability.

He just puts so much pressure on opposing defenses as a skill player. He'll make your O-Line better, too.

If I were the Dolphins, despite the needs on the OL, if they were picking in the 12-17 range and he still was there, I'd take him without any reservations. Address the line later and through free agency. He'll help you as a blocker but he'll make everyone around him better and he's just so hard to prepare for.
 
Allar had a bad game against Ohio State and that hurt his draft stock. He is probably going to be a 3rd or 4th round prospect. I don't know if he would be a good fit for our offense.

Abdul Carter will probably be taken before we select.

If Warren is going to be as good or better than Bowers then I would be all for taking him with our first round pick. How are defenses going to scheme against us then?
 
I like both of their running backs too.
Is Rojas LB coming out this year, that's the guy to look for too.
Penn State has a really good roster, one of the top rosters in the country other than the receivers, but the TE is a monster.
 
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Warren is my first round pick if the Dolphins continue winning and pick late teens. I think he’s better than Bowers.

I wouldn’t touch Allar until the end of round three. Maybe use one of the comp picks.

Carter is considered top 10 and I see no way Miami is picking top 10. If they do pick top 10 there are players I like better than Carter.
 
I like Allar as well. I think he's a little underrated at this point, but he could sneak into round one when all is said and done.

Yes, he has some inconsistent tape. But I think all the talent is there.
 
Drew Aller will return to the Nittany Lions.He announced it the other day.
 
Warren looks awfully scheme driven to me. Be careful of an overdraft here
 
I like both of their running backs too.
Is Rojas LB coming out this year, that's the guy to look for too.
Penn State has a really good roster, one of the top roster's in the country other than the receivers, but the TE is a monster.

No on Rojas, and he's not ready yet. He misses a lot of tackles. He could play for the Dolphins. Right now he's a big-play guy who needs to work on the details.
 
This is why I love the combine for players like Warren, movement in space, speed or lackthereof
 
I think he can be very good, but Bowers is a lot faster. Bowers is going to set the record for rookie tight ends.
 
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