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Will restate the rules quickly - this is not about careers, it is just about the single game. Big name players and coaches are held to a higher standard than the scrubs as well.

Having said that, this one could be really easy to do. Could simply be Three Up: Nobody, Three Down: All of Em. This whole thing sucked. Everyone was telling me the Bills were seriously degraded this year. On top of that, they were all banged up and then they lose their best defensive player and only other team captain right away in the game, and they still come to our home field, on a short week, and do that to us? Embarrassing. If it wasn't for Holland punching the ball away from Etienne on the goal line, Jacksonville probably runs us off the field, and we would be 0-2 right now, and the season would be over given how the schedule shapes up. All the wins we had penciled in going forward early in the year, like next week, now they don't look so easy.

Three Up:

The Cheerleaders - They showed up, looked good, and didn't screw anything up!
The long snapper - He didn't screw anything up either
Achane - Played hurt, looked great, ran hard. A lot of tough running actually, was impressive. Looked like he could be a lead back and take the beating

Honorable mention: David Long, looked he was OK and was trying and played tough football

Three Down:

Chris Grier - You suck! Our team is a poorly constructed mess. You went all in, and this is what we get. You had two good drafts a few years ago, clearly that was the random dumb luck that would eventually happen, but back to stink again. Armstead gets hurt, one more always injured guy you love signing, and Paul doesn't even come in, so I guess we get nothing out of him this year. Soft as puppy poo in the trenches team once again. No backup QB. No third receiver, nice plan with OBJ there buddy. Oldest roster in the NFL too - where is this thing going? If I was Steve Ross, I would be apoplectic about how this thing looks, especially with all the big contracts they just handed out, some to older guys.

Tua- That wasn't good, and then you basically concussed yourself. Damar Hamlin standing there, you lower your head and run into his chest, not even that hard, and this is what happens? I don't get it. Three up and three down is strictly about evaluating the player in the game. Feel bad for Tua? Of course, but that is a separate issue. That rag armed throw away attempt that went to the Bill's DB, just gross. We still had a chance to get back in it before that happened. Josh Allen makes things happen when things break down. He shows up in big games. You got the big money, this is what you have to do, and you are going to need to do it with less and less around you every year going forward when your money kicks in. If we even get to that point, which sadly seems like a question mark now. This cannot keep happening, for everyone's sake.

Jalen Ramsey - You get smoked by their backup running back for a big play early in the game when we were still in it? That is two weeks in a row giving up big plays. No injury excuses, you are on the field, you are expected to produce. And not get smoked by backup running backs or whoever that bum was.

Honorable mentions to a lot of players: DuBose, catch the damn ball, seriously you bum. McDaniel, you sucked, and looked like a deer in the headlights last night, and it felt like you gave up right at the end of the first half. Probably everyone else on the team too. Armstead, am sick of watching you get hurt all of the time, yeah we should have known, but it is just annoying watching it.

Bonus rant from Smokes: https://x.com/nickysmokess/status/1834421121308901532
 
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phinsforlife said:
Will restate the rules quickly - this is not about careers, it is just about the single game. Big name players and coaches are held to a higher standard than the scrubs as well.

Having said that, this one could be really easy to do. Could simply be Three Up: Nobody, Three Down: All of Em. This whole thing sucked. Everyone was telling me the Bill's were seriously degraded this year. On top of that, they were all banged up and then they lose their best defensive player and only other team captain right away in the game, and they still come to our home field, on a short week, and do that to us? Embarrassing. If it wasn't for Holland punching the ball away from Etienne on the goal line, Jacksonville probably runs us off the field, and we would be 0-2 right now, and the season would be over given how the schedule shapes up. All the wins we had penciled in going forward early in the year, like next week, now they don't look so easy.

Three Up:

The Cheerleaders - They showed up, looked good, and didn't screw anything up!
The long snapper - He didn't screw anything up either
Achane - Played hurt, looked great, ran hard. A lot of tough running actually, was impressive

Honorable mention: David Long, looked he was OK and was trying and played tough football

Three Down:

Chris Grier - You suck! Our team is a poorly constructed mess. You went all in, and this is what we get. You had two good drafts a few years ago, clearly that was the random dumb luck that would eventually happen, but back to stink again. Armstead gets hurt, one more always injured guy you love signing, and Paul doesn't even come in, so I guess we get nothing out of him this year. Soft as puppy poo in the trenches team once again. No backup QB. No third receiver, nice plan with OBJ there buddy. Oldest roster in the NFL too - where is this thing going? If I was Steve Ross, I would be apoplectic about how this thing looks, especially with all the big contracts they just handed out, some to older guys.

Tua- That wasn't good, and then you basically concussed yourself. Damar Hamlin standing there, you lower your head and run into his chest, not even that hard, and this is what happens? I don't get it. Three up and three down is strictly about evaluating the player in the game. Feel bad for Tua? Of course, but that is a separate issue. Josh Allen makes things happen when things go off script. He shows up in big games. You got the big money, this is what you have to do, and you are going to need to do it with less and less around you every year going forward when your money kicks in. If we even get to that point, which sadly seems like a question mark now. This cannot keep happening, for everyone's sake.

Jalen Ramsey - You get smoked by their backup running back for a big play early in the game when we were still in it? That is two weeks in a row giving up big plays. No injury excuses, you are on the field, you are expected to produce. And not get smoked by backup running backs or whoever that bum was.

Honorable mentions to a lot of players: DuBose, catch the damn ball, seriously you bum. McDaniel, you sucked, and looked like a deer in the headlights last night. Probably everyone else on the team too. Armstead, am sick of watching you get hurt all of the time, yeah we should have known, but it is just annoying watching it.
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Well, sadly I agree with everything you said. Perfect post!
 
I feel like I saw Ramsey miss a lot of tackles last night, but its ridiculous to blame him for that long catch. There is no CB in the NFL that can cover another player for 6+ seconds.
 
CrazyCarl said:
I feel like I saw Ramsey miss a lot of tackles last night, but its ridiculous to blame him for that long catch. There is no CB in the NFL that can cover another player for 6+ seconds.
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well i disagree, but understand your opinion. that was a backup RB, and Ramsey was right there, and just got beat. also, it would be nice to have a QB that can extend a play for 6 seconds and then make that throw as opposed to throwing a wounded duck to the other teams DB and concussing yourself in the same night!
 
phinsforlife said:
well i disagree, but understand your opinion. that was a backup RB, and Ramsey was right there, and just got beat. also, it would be nice to have a QB that can extend a play for 6 seconds and then make that throw as opposed to throwing a wounded duck to the other teams DB and concussing yourself in the same night!
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You can disagree all you want, but there is no defense in the NFL designed to defend a 6+ second extended play. It doesn't matter who is out there running routes, you can't cover people for that long in the NFL.

Agreed on the second point about having a QB that can extend plays and make those type of throws.
 
UP

Achane, thats it.

Down

Grier, worst GM in the NFL.

Tua, he picked up where he left off at the end of last season. He should just retire for his own sake.

McDaniel, I am so over him. Most overrated coach in the NFL.

Ramsey, looks like we got conned again by an aging DB and we paid him him right before he fall off a cliff.
 
It’s kind of amazing that we had a wide receiver get hit directly in the middle of the chest with a pass, beyond the first down marker, out of his break, at exactly the right time, on 3rd and long, on the first possession of the game, without so much as lifting his hands for it, and the pass got intercepted, and it doesn’t make the list of top three (or five) worst Dolphins things of the night.

The Dolphins are like a box of chocolates. But instead of chocolate, poop.
 
Went to bed when we turned it over on downs right before the half. I have ridden this ride long enough not to lose sleep over it.
 
Marino2.0 said:
It’s kind of amazing that we had a wide receiver get hit directly in the middle of the chest with a pass, beyond the first down marker, out of his break, at exactly the right time, on 3rd and long, on the first possession of the game, without so much as lifting his hands for it, and the pass got intercepted, and it doesn’t make the list of top three (or five) worst Dolphins things of the night.

The Dolphins are like a box of chocolates. But instead of chocolate, poop.
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would be fun to put your list together! i used to love those box chocolates, now not so much. although i did get good at being able to pick the ones i like out of the box. truffles are the best!
 
Heinegrabber said:
Went to bed when we turned it over on downs right before the half. I have ridden this ride long enough not to lose sleep over it.
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that was another wierd one mcdaniel was so conservative before end of half playing for a FG...it looked wierd then like we were waving the white towel
 
Marino2.0 said:
It’s kind of amazing that we had a wide receiver get hit directly in the middle of the chest with a pass, beyond the first down marker, out of his break, at exactly the right time, on 3rd and long, on the first possession of the game, without so much as lifting his hands for it, and the pass got intercepted, and it doesn’t make the list of top three (or five) worst Dolphins things of the night.

The Dolphins are like a box of chocolates. But instead of chocolate, poop.
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He also failed to attempt to catch the next pass that was thrown to him. Up the seam, a fairly well-thrown ball……and he didn’t even move his hands towards the ball. I was screaming that I’ve never seen a WR who doesn’t understand the “receiver” part of his position.
 
phinsforlife said:
that was another wierd one mcdaniel was so conservative before end of half playing for a FG...it looked wierd then like we were waving the white towel
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That possession will go down for me as the possession where McDaniel lost me. That was inexplicable. When Al Michaels doesn’t understand what’s he seeing, you know it’s bad.
 
phinsforlife said:
would be fun to put your list together! i used to love those box chocolates, now not so much. although i did get good at being able to pick the ones i like out of the box. truffles are the best!
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Three up:
1. The Dolphins 2025 draft position.
2. The Dolphins 2026 draft position.
3. Florida Panthers season ticket sales.

Three down:
1. Tua’s play. When healthy, he has proven to be too limited to beat good teams, and he simply makes too many mental errors.

2. Tua’s health. The fact that Tua isn’t good enough when healthy no longer matters because his NFL career is over.

3. Mike McDaniel. His football philosophy has failed. You cannot load a team up with playmakers and forsake the trenches and beat good football teams. We get bullied against every good team, and our playmakers are approximately worthless when the other team keeps us in front of them and forces us to run the ball.

3.5. Chris Grier. The snark over the OL is outrageous. The OL sucks. It’s sucked his whole tenure. They need to take it seriously.

3.75. Terron Armstead. He doesn’t want to play football anymore. The fact that our best offensive lineman doesn’t like playing football is a microcosm of our team.

3.9. Julian Hill and Durham Smythe are terrible football players and don’t belong in the NFL.

3.95. We don’t have a playable WR behind Tyreek and Waddle. Chosen and DuBose are not NFL players, and Berrios isn’t a receiver.

3.99. Welker needs to be fired. Between Ezukanma, Chase Claypool, Braxton Berrios, Ced Wilson, Malik Washington, Robbie Chosen, and DuBose, he has not been able to get any of them ready to play in this offense. If you weren’t already a superstar (Hill, Waddle) and didn’t come here already knowing the offense (Sherfield, Cracraft), you simply can’t play WR us. That reflects terrible position coaching.
 
Marino2.0 said:
Three up:
1. The Dolphins 2025 draft position.
2. The Dolphins 2026 draft position.
3. Florida Panthers season ticket sales.

Three down:
1. Tua’s play. When healthy, he has proven to be too limited to beat good teams, and he simply makes too many mental errors.

2. Tua’s health. The fact that Tua isn’t good enough when healthy no longer matters because his NFL career is over.

3. Mike McDaniel. His football philosophy has failed. You cannot load a team up with playmakers and forsake the trenches and beat good football teams. We get bullied against every good team, and our playmakers are approximately worthless when the other team keeps us in front of them and forces us to run the ball.

3.5. Chris Grier. The snark over the OL is outrageous. The OL sucks. It’s sucked his whole tenure. They need to take it seriously.

3.75. Terron Armstead. He doesn’t want to play football anymore. The fact that our best offensive lineman doesn’t like playing football is a microcosm of our team.

3.9. Julian Hill and Durham Smythe are terrible football players and don’t belong in the NFL.

3.95. We don’t have a playable WR behind Tyreek and Waddle. Chosen and DuBose are not NFL players, and Berrios isn’t a receiver.

3.99. Welker needs to be fired. Between Ezukanma, Chase Claypool, Braxton Berrios, Ced Wilson, Malik Washington, Robbie Chosen, and DuBose, he has not been able to get any of them ready to play in this offense. If you weren’t already a superstar (Hill, Waddle) and didn’t come here already knowing the offense (Sherfield, Cracraft), you simply can’t play WR us. That reflects terrible position coaching.
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very well said. although i tend to give welker a break. my suspicion is he is pretty darn good, it is just the guys they are bringing in to play #3 receiver are not good. they have all been on different teams, and keep getting cut, with the exception of E and Washington
 
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