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I am watching the Broncos-Steelers game and both teams tilt their NT (Hampton and Warren). I also know the Fins do this with Traylor. I have read about this with George Perles, who was the DC for the Steelers during the Steel Curtain, who would do this Mean Joe Greene. (Perles later was the HC for Michigan St. where Saban was the DC) I know the purpose is to go at a 45 degree angle facing the center with the NTs butt in the way of the guard. This completely eats up that A gap and if the ball goes behind them, it is hard to turn around.

So what I am asking is, anyone know the other advantages and disadvantages to doing this?
 
Major disadvantage is that there aren't many Casey Hampton's and Keith Traylors.
 
foozool13 said:
what is tilting???
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It is when they line the NT in the gap between the C and G and instead of lining up straight ahead, they tilt themselves at a 45 degree angle - this puts them in a position where they are facing the center and their backside is in the way of the guard...
 
CVass said:
I am watching the Broncos-Steelers game and both teams tilt their NT (Hampton and Warren). I also know the Fins do this with Traylor. I have read about this with George Perles, who was the DC for the Steelers during the Steel Curtain, who would do this Mean Joe Greene. (Perles later was the HC for Michigan St. where Saban was the DC) I know the purpose is to go at a 45 degree angle facing the center with the NTs butt in the way of the guard. This completely eats up that A gap and if the ball goes behind them, it is hard to turn around.

So what I am asking is, anyone know the other advantages and disadvantages to doing this?
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****ing the nose tackle like that gives him better vision of the ball and also gives the offensive lineman a harder target to block.

The Minnesota Vikings used to **** John Randle like that, except Randle was ****ed in the three techique.
 
fins2923 said:
Major disadvantage is that there aren't many Casey Hampton's and Keith Traylors.
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Yeah, but Joe Greene was speedy - a totally different mold.. Gerard Warren isn't a mammoth either.. It is not the personnel but the gap responsibility that dictates the technique and the certain way it disrupts the blocking scheme (I think)
 
KB21 said:
****ing the nose tackle like that gives him better vision of the ball and also gives the offensive lineman a harder target to block.

The Minnesota Vikings used to **** John Randle like that, except Randle was ****ed in the three techique.
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:sidelol: at the censorship
 
CVass said:
Yeah, but Joe Greene was speedy - a totally different mold.. Gerard Warren isn't a mammoth either.. It is not the personnel but the gap responsibility that dictates the technique and the certain way it disrupts the blocking scheme (I think)
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No question, as evidenced by how competively J Zgonina played it. Smart and diligent players around you help the scheme, also. The mental toughness was more what I was referring to that the physical size, although that certainly doen't hurt. Wilfork who is a similar bodied guy plays straight zero a vast majority of the time. Chris Hovan might have had his best yr in '05 by playing it in Tampa, completely different than the schemes employed by teams like Miami and Pittsburgh. They play more of those Pirate or Tango schemes up front.
 
A disadvantage to it would be the lack of balance. Easier to push someone head on, if the guard pushes on your side the NT would be toast if he doesnt possess good balance.
 
We run probably one of the more interesting defenses in the league mainly because the Holliday, Traylor, Carter combo is actually a 3-4 with Taylor just being on the line rather than the old 4-3 we used to run.
 
Jaj said:
We run probably one of the more interesting defenses in the league mainly because the Holliday, Traylor, Carter combo is actually a 3-4 with Taylor just being on the line rather than the old 4-3 we used to run.
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Yes, I know... I am just trying to find out all the consideration put into using the titled nose when we play the 40 front.
 
haha at first i thought this was a tackling technique like leaning your hear so u hit harder

ive never heard of this but it would be easier to see if it is a pass or run play and it would clog up the entire A gap, for example, keith traylor lines up to the right facin the left, the right guard blocks his side, traylor pushes the cemter into the left guard this slows the guard whose on the same side as traylor up and stops the opposite guad and the center

also in a pass it would be easier to get off the center and get at the quarterback because hed have to move to get to you and by the time he does that 1/2 your body is past him
 
Everytime I ever noticed Miami playing with a tilted NT, it seemed like Jeff Zgonina was doing it.
 
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