Time to invest high pick(s) on OL

[Canuck]

Former #1 draft pick, Vernon Carey, notwithistanding........ it's time we go get ourselves a quality OL via the draft. Yes, it's only week 2 but April can't come fast enough when it comes to new OL recruits. Hudson Haouck may be able to make chicken salad out of chicken !@#$! but it aint working thus far in 06'. Skill position players aint the problem here folks.....it's allowing time to throw and room to run. When will we learn and finally invest in the OL?

 

[Rick 1966]

The time to do that was about four freaking years ago.

 

[destiny1]

As Madden says "It all starts in the trenches."

 

[Tigers2003]

We should all be very disappointed in how the OL has turned out - so far. IMHO this year would be a turning point for them. With Anderson out indefinitely we are paper thin. If things continue to go the way they have been for this unit not a bad idea for this organization to think about a guard AND a tackle on day 1. Or, a stud in round one and serious look at best available FAs. Who can list a short list of high calibre OL both tackles and guards who will be FAs at end of season?

 

[Caps]

I'd be taking long looks at all available OLB's, guards, and tackles this offseason.

Also, here's the available OL free agents for 2007 link

 

[Silverphin]

Let's give Alabi one more year of development before we starting looking for a Left tackle. But I'm really hoping for a C/G.

 

[McMichael]

if you haven't noticed we've remade a lot of our line this year, and have been working out many free agent lineman. who are we gonna draft? the problem is that most lineman that will actually come in and immediately start producing are gonna be taken in the top 5... so we would have to about 4-12 again to get another high pick to get one ...

 

[Tigers2003]

if you haven't noticed we've remade a lot of our line this year, and have been working out many free agent lineman. who are we gonna draft? the problem is that most lineman that will actually come in and immediately start producing are gonna be taken in the top 5... so we would have to about 4-12 again to get another high pick to get one ...

A good front office with a little luck and excellent player analysis can find diamonds in the rough. There are guys drafted after the top 5 or 10 that can contribute if not start year 1. I don't agree we have to be lousy to get a gem in the draft. I admit I am not one of these fellows that have easy access to scouting lists of best seniors coming out of college and stuff like that so I can not run off names off the top of my head. Also, thanks to Caps for the FA list.

 

[Jimmy James]

I don't care where they're drafted. If they can find a Hadnot in every single draft and that's what makes up our OL, it will be fine with me. The key is that this team needs to focus on OL as a priority. There is just too much money spent on skill position players to see it pissed away with a bad line. If the defense has to suffer, it has to suffer. This team needs to be stout on at least one side of the ball.

 

[FinfanDuda]

I agree...

We have been playing "Patch Up the Oline" for the past 4 or 5 years, and it is one of the things that really gets me. We have a very good and beefy Dline, but without a solid Oline it is going to be very hard to do much. Defenses are getting much better and faster, and you have to have a good oline to offset this.

Granted, we had the same problems at oline at the beginning of the year last year, and the oline will get better as the season progresses, but I don't think that we focus on this group enough. There are so many variables involved in our losses over the last two weeks, it probably is not fair to rant about the oline yet, but blocking makes everything else seem so much easier.

We also need better playcalling, and better performance out of Dante will offset the crappy blocking. Also, the fact that I can outrun Dante now :) :sidelol: does not help much. The scariest play of the game was when Dante was run down by a 360 pound DT.

OLINE...OLINE...OLINE...

Now for my normal, optimistic perspective. Dante and the Oline will continually improve as the season progresses. Right now, defenses are seeing that he has no mobility anymore and they are going to start blitzing us more to make him panic. With better playcalling we will be able make the defenses pay when they start blitzing us. One of the problems now is that we have to keep in everyone and their brother to help block 4 or 5 defenders. We are leaving the TE in to block and when we have a back, we normally have to leave them in to block also. That just baffles me that we have to have 6 to 7 blockers to block 4 to 5 defenders.

 

[A Wing Pilot]

Jimmy Johnson circa Cowboy years, never drafted an OLINE player before the 4th round. He thought it was a waste of a pick. You have to have the right research and coaching.

I wish I had more to say but I don't, I don't have any clue as to whats to happen.

 

[TexanPhinatic]

OK, I live in Houston where the Texans play, and lemme tell you, that teams biggest problem since the first season has been O-Line, yet they never draft big name linemen, or sign the big free agents. And guess what, yet AGAIN its killing them!! David Carr gets sacked like 5 times a game at least, the running attack is non-existent, bla bla. Ive seen it happen, it looks horrible.

Unless we can get some real quality talent in here, our future is gonna be kinda bleak in the line area. We really should have gone after someone in this years draft or free agency. We cant afford to keep thinking fourth rounders and no-name FAs are gonna gell for us and HH will just magically make them work wonders. He might make them work decently, for the talent level, but think of what that kind of coaching can do if we had say Steve Hutchinson or LeCharles Bently in FA, or if we had pulled a Jets and drafted Ferguson and Mangold.

Its never a sexy move, but its always a solid one and one we need to make and sooner rather than later.

 

[hardhitn]

OK, I live in Houston where the Texans play, and lemme tell you, that teams biggest problem since the first season has been O-Line, yet they never draft big name linemen, or sign the big free agents. And guess what, yet AGAIN its killing them!! David Carr gets sacked like 5 times a game at least, the running attack is non-existent, bla bla. Ive seen it happen, it looks horrible.

Unless we can get some real quality talent in here, our future is gonna be kinda bleak in the line area. We really should have gone after someone in this years draft or free agency. We cant afford to keep thinking fourth rounders and no-name FAs are gonna gell for us and HH will just magically make them work wonders. He might make them work decently, for the talent level, but think of what that kind of coaching can do if we had say Steve Hutchinson or LeCharles Bently in FA, or if we had pulled a Jets and drafted Ferguson and Mangold.

Its never a sexy move, but its always a solid one and one we need to make and sooner rather than later.

lol i think weve all seen Carr's punishment

 

[DolfanDaveInMI]

Barring a catastrophic leg injury in the next couple of years, David Carr is going to be as coherent as Evander Holyfield when he's through playing.

 

[Tigers2003]

Barring a catastrophic leg injury in the next couple of years, David Carr is going to be as coherent as Evander Holyfield when he's through playing.

Its almost criminal what the Texans are doing to Carr; like leading the lamb to be slaughtered at the altar. Total ineptness in drafting OL and a situation worse than ours I may add.

On another non Dolphins note another situation was when Randall Cunningham was with the Eagles. Two dingbats in Buddy Ball boy and Kotite (yikes!!) couldn't coach Offenses and never could help build a decent OL for Randall. He had two legit WRs, his scrambling abililty, no running game, and a terrific D. But why you think Cunningham did all that running. Its amazing the man can walk today with the type of abuse he received and the hits he took! Its just awful when QBs with talent are left out to dry by organizations who cannot obtain talent for them on the OL.