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Tua Contract Deets - No Concussion Clauses

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Grier, Ross, McDaniel. To agree to this, given his injury history, not smart. I think Grier and Ross primarily responsible, but McDaniel as well. This is too one sided in Tua's favor given the risk. And yes, they could have made him play out the 5th year option too, then none of this would have been an issue. They did not need to cave on everything, they had some leverage, especially that 5th year option.


More deets on the contract, article is paywalled, I can excerpt some highlights.

▪ The contract contains no clauses or exceptions or waivers for concussions, per Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio. ▪ According to overthecap.com’s Jason Fitzgerald, insurance covers $49.3 million of the $167.1 million guaranteed for injury in Tagovailoa’s contract. He would be due $167.1 million if he’s never cleared to play but doesn’t retire. ▪ Per spotrac.com’s Michael Ginnitti, $43 million of the $167 million that’s guaranteed for injury already has been paid to Tagovailoa. Ginnitti said if Tagovialoa is “medically cleared to return to football, but opts to retire, he will forego the remaining $124M guaranteed (barring a custom settlement). If he’s medically forced into retirement, he has a right to collect the $124M remaining.” If Tagovailoa retires by choice, after being medically cleared, Miami would still have $33.6 million in dead money that it could spread over 2025 and 2026, per Fitzgerald. But Tagovailoa retiring after being medically cleared seems unlikely because of all the of the money he would be sacrificing. ▪ As Ginnitti noted, if Tagovailoa passes a physical in March — and the Dolphins nevertheless released him (an unlikely scenario) — they would be “on the hook” for only the $50 million he’s due in 2025. His $54 million salary for 2026 would become guaranteed March 14, 2025, and the Dolphins could move to release him before that date, and avoid that 2026 salary, if he passes a physical next March. So if Tagovailoa passes a physical, it’s unlikely he would be released. Tagovailoa’s $31 million salary in 2027 and $41.4 million salary in 2028 are not guaranteed. ▪ If the Dolphins released Tagovailoa without a post-June 1 designation next offseason, Miami would have a dead cap hit of $132.2 million that could be spread across 2025 and 2026. If Tagovailoa were to be released with a post-June 1 designation, the Dolphins would have a dead cap hit of $83.6 million that could be taken in 2025 or spread across 2025 and 2026. That was the risk of signing Tagavailoa to the four-year, $212 million extension when the Dolphins merely could have gone year to year with him through 2026, albeit with larger cap hits than the ones in the early years of his new contract. The Dolphins have only $4 million in 2025 cap space at the moment. Sustaining an enormous cap hit for releasing Tagovailoa — and then having the money to sign a replacement other than a rookie or cheap journeyman — isn’t realistic.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article292419334.html#storylink=cpy
 
Don’t agree.

All of this talks about cutting Tua. There’s no chance we cut Tua. There’s also no chance he won’t be medically cleared.

There are two options: he returns to action, or he retires. If he returns to action, from the team’s perspective, great. If he retires, it’s about $34 million in dead cap (total) spread over two years. That’s not bad at all.

The cap situation isn’t the problem. The problem is he can’t play NFL football without suffering traumatic brain injuries.
 
No player is going to agree to injury clause. Now they may take a settlement but tua will be back
 
Don’t agree.

All of this talks about cutting Tua. There’s no chance we cut Tua. There’s also no chance he won’t be medically cleared.

There are two options: he returns to action, or he retires. If he returns to action, from the team’s perspective, great. If he retires, it’s about $34 million in dead cap (total) spread over two years. That’s not bad at all.

The cap situation isn’t the problem. The problem is he can’t play NFL football without suffering traumatic brain injuries.
Tua can find a doctor that doesn't think he is able to play and this thing will head to arbitration (if he doesn't want to play).
 
Don’t agree.

All of this talks about cutting Tua. There’s no chance we cut Tua. There’s also no chance he won’t be medically cleared.

There are two options: he returns to action, or he retires. If he returns to action, from the team’s perspective, great. If he retires, it’s about $34 million in dead cap (total) spread over two years. That’s not bad at all.

The cap situation isn’t the problem. The problem is he can’t play NFL football without suffering traumatic brain injuries.
Gotta agree.

Don’t know the money speak.

But Tua can’t hang. Too fragile.
 
Grier, Ross, McDaniel. To agree to this, given his injury history, not smart. I think Grier and Ross primarily responsible, but McDaniel as well. This is too one sided in Tua's favor given the risk. And yes, they could have made him play out the 5th year option too, then none of this would have been an issue. They did not need to cave on everything, they had some leverage, especially that 5th year option.


More deets on the contract, article is paywalled, I can excerpt some highlights.

▪ The contract contains no clauses or exceptions or waivers for concussions, per Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio. ▪ According to overthecap.com’s Jason Fitzgerald, insurance covers $49.3 million of the $167.1 million guaranteed for injury in Tagovailoa’s contract. He would be due $167.1 million if he’s never cleared to play but doesn’t retire. ▪ Per spotrac.com’s Michael Ginnitti, $43 million of the $167 million that’s guaranteed for injury already has been paid to Tagovailoa. Ginnitti said if Tagovialoa is “medically cleared to return to football, but opts to retire, he will forego the remaining $124M guaranteed (barring a custom settlement). If he’s medically forced into retirement, he has a right to collect the $124M remaining.” If Tagovailoa retires by choice, after being medically cleared, Miami would still have $33.6 million in dead money that it could spread over 2025 and 2026, per Fitzgerald. But Tagovailoa retiring after being medically cleared seems unlikely because of all the of the money he would be sacrificing. ▪ As Ginnitti noted, if Tagovailoa passes a physical in March — and the Dolphins nevertheless released him (an unlikely scenario) — they would be “on the hook” for only the $50 million he’s due in 2025. His $54 million salary for 2026 would become guaranteed March 14, 2025, and the Dolphins could move to release him before that date, and avoid that 2026 salary, if he passes a physical next March. So if Tagovailoa passes a physical, it’s unlikely he would be released. Tagovailoa’s $31 million salary in 2027 and $41.4 million salary in 2028 are not guaranteed. ▪ If the Dolphins released Tagovailoa without a post-June 1 designation next offseason, Miami would have a dead cap hit of $132.2 million that could be spread across 2025 and 2026. If Tagovailoa were to be released with a post-June 1 designation, the Dolphins would have a dead cap hit of $83.6 million that could be taken in 2025 or spread across 2025 and 2026. That was the risk of signing Tagavailoa to the four-year, $212 million extension when the Dolphins merely could have gone year to year with him through 2026, albeit with larger cap hits than the ones in the early years of his new contract. The Dolphins have only $4 million in 2025 cap space at the moment. Sustaining an enormous cap hit for releasing Tagovailoa — and then having the money to sign a replacement other than a rookie or cheap journeyman — isn’t realistic.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article292419334.html#storylink=cpy
Tua need retire. Enjoy life. Go back to Hawaii
 
Tua will be back in 3 weeks.
Thompson will be the QB and we lose both games.
 
Yea they may need to do a custom payout of his contract or renegotiate it somehow. He was not playing to the standard of a top 10 QB before the injury, he is a star that can occasionally play like a superstar but that's not a knock. It was Achane that was carrying the team. I truly believe we would of came back because of Achane. This contract tells me, shut him down and tank for a top prospect.
 
Tua can find a doctor that doesn't think he is able to play and this thing will head to arbitration (if he doesn't want to play).
I'm not sure he wants to find a Doctor who says that

Tua is competitive and wants to play and I think if he is cleared medically, he will be right back on the field

Whether he sticks it out long term is another question, but that will depend on his medical evaluation and prognosis
 
I said from the begining let him play the 5th year and with the probable failure draft a qb this year… but the organization and most of the tua lover fans are a bunch of losers
 
Don’t agree.

All of this talks about cutting Tua. There’s no chance we cut Tua. There’s also no chance he won’t be medically cleared.

There are two options: he returns to action, or he retires. If he returns to action, from the team’s perspective, great. If he retires, it’s about $34 million in dead cap (total) spread over two years. That’s not bad at all.

The cap situation isn’t the problem. The problem is he can’t play NFL football without suffering traumatic brain injuries.
My exact thoughts. He will be cleared eventually, but I think he should retire and I would personally. Too much to risk and he simply can't handle the physicality of being an NFL QB. His concussions or only going to get worse and have more lasting effects.
 
Personally I’ve seen enough of Tua and am ready to move on from him. We overpaid and good on him for getting the money. I wish him the best but don’t want to watch him play anymore. It’s not safe and I don’t wanna watch the guy die
 
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