Tua gives little insight on his Accuracy

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Tua Tagovailoa accuracy is a real thing now

Have you looked at the NFL statistics lately?

The NFL’s most accurate quarterback is Murray, who has a 72.7 completion percentage. That’s not a surprise because Murray has been leading the league in this category for much of the season.

But the second-most accurate passer in the league now might surprise you: Tua Tagovailoa.

The Dolphins quarterback’s completion percentage is 70.5, which is a couple of tenths above New England’s Mac Jones at 70.3.

Tagovailoa’s elite trait has always been accuracy but now it’s manifesting in the NFL. And that means Tagovailoa’s natural gifts and understanding of different situations are combing to get him more connections.

“It’s always dependent,” Tagovailoa said. “If it’s man (coverage), you never want to put it behind them. You never want to put it on them. You always want to lead them. In zone, you’re really just trying to beat the defensive guys in spots when you’re throwing it. A lot of it has to do with timing.

“Really, the receivers in zone and in man, I feel like they’re our eyes as quarterbacks because they’re running to a spot where they want us to throw the ball. It gets hard when you’re looking in the front and trying to see who is in front of them and then try to look back at them and then try to make the throw. Sometimes you just never have enough time to do that, so you’re just trusting them.”

That still requires good ball placement, and Tagovailoa credits not his coaches but his father for that skill.

“Yeah, I would say working out with my dad, that was imperative. Just everything I had to do had to be to his liking. If the ball placement wasn’t where it should have been, then we do it again and we do it until we get it right. That goes with footwork and all of that.”

 

[Fin-Loco]

Yeah, well when your dad is going to beat you if you miss a pass it I guess builds your completion percentage. So does a dink and dunk offense.

 

[rickd13]

Yeah, well when your dad is going to beat you if you miss a pass it I guess builds your completion percentage. So does a dink and dunk offense.

This narrative that Tua's accuracy is attributed to a dink and dunk offense kind of reminds me of the narrative that Tannehill couldn't throw a deep ball. When Miami finally asked Tannehill to throw the ball downfield, we found out that he was actually really good at it. I think we are going to find out that Tua's accuracy down the field is going to be top notch when the line gives him a little more time and the offensive scheme asks him to throw the ball downfield at a higher rate. Tua was a very accurate deep thrower in college, so with more experience and a better roster around him, I would expect Tua's accuracy at all levels of the field would be equivalent to his accuracy at Alabama.

 

[Fin-Loco]

This narrative that Tua's accuracy is attributed to a dink and dunk offense kind of reminds me of the narrative that Tannehill couldn't throw a deep ball. When Miami finally asked Tannehill to throw the ball downfield, we found out that he was actually really good at it. I think we are going to find out that Tua's accuracy down the field is going to be top notch when the line gives him a little more time and the offensive scheme asks him to throw the ball downfield at a higher rate. Tua was a very accurate deep thrower in college, so with more experience and a better roster around him, I would expect Tua's accuracy at all levels of the field would be equivalent to his accuracy at Alabama.

Sure. I never said he wasn't capable. But most of his passes are short and intermediate. Yes, we can speculate on the small sampling of his longer passes that he'd be just as accurate. However, that isn't the world he has been living in. Perhaps he occasionally shys away from the deep pass as well as play calling, coverage, protection and personnel all playing their parts. I'm simply saying his lofty completion percentage has been helped by the large percentage of short and intermediate throws he's been making. He's averaging around 250 yards per game and 2.2 TDs when both passing and rushing are factored in. He ain't Brett Favre, Marino or Warner just yet fellas.

 

[royalshank]

This narrative that Tua's accuracy is attributed to a dink and dunk offense kind of reminds me of the narrative that Tannehill couldn't throw a deep ball. When Miami finally asked Tannehill to throw the ball downfield, we found out that he was actually really good at it. I think we are going to find out that Tua's accuracy down the field is going to be top notch when the line gives him a little more time and the offensive scheme asks him to throw the ball downfield at a higher rate. Tua was a very accurate deep thrower in college, so with more experience and a better roster around him, I would expect Tua's accuracy at all levels of the field would be equivalent to his accuracy at Alabama.

To be fair, Ryan’s deep ball wasn’t good at first as he had a tendency to overshoot the target - and even in his own words he said,”I’m trying to be too perfect” on those. About year 4 or so is when a weakness turned to a strength. I think he started thinking less and it showed. I remember a ball to Stills against the Chargers that left us all dumbfounded as it dropped right in and about 1 inch prior to running out of end zone space. Good stuff. Tua is accurate short, medium and long. We’ve seen that consistently.

 

[NBP81]

I'm simply saying his lofty completion percentage has been helped by the large percentage of short and intermediate throws he's been making

It has, but when you compare with other QBs who throw around the same depth on average such as Matt Ryan(67.5), Roethlisberger(64.6), Justin Herbert(66) and Jared Goff(67.3), Tua comes on top by a good margin when it comes to accuracy. His 3.3% over expected is what separates him from the rest here, He completes the harder throws more frequently.

 

[circumstances]

This narrative that Tua's accuracy is attributed to a dink and dunk offense kind of reminds me of the narrative that Tannehill couldn't throw a deep ball. When Miami finally asked Tannehill to throw the ball downfield, we found out that he was actually really good at it. I think we are going to find out that Tua's accuracy down the field is going to be top notch when the line gives him a little more time and the offensive scheme asks him to throw the ball downfield at a higher rate. Tua was a very accurate deep thrower in college, so with more experience and a better roster around him, I would expect Tua's accuracy at all levels of the field would be equivalent to his accuracy at Alabama.

Plus, without a consistent rushing "attack" (I'm hesitant to characterize it as an attack), the passing game has to be the passing game and the rushing game (short passes) much of the time.

Have to keep moving the sticks.

 

[AdamD13]

Beyond accuracy, it is the ball placement and touch.

The only passes I saw last week lacking in ball placement were the throw to Ford in the end zone being low, but was still catchable and the throw when Tua dropped the snap, picked it up and threw behind the receiver. I did not see his last incompletion, taking a piss, so only heard it was incomplete.

So many of Tua’s passes the ball catches the receiver as much as the receiver catches the ball.

 

[royalshank]

Plus, without a consistent rushing "attack" (I'm hesitant to characterize it as an attack), the passing game has to be the passing game and the rushing game (short passes) much of the time.

Have to keep moving the sticks.

I like how you qualified the word “attack”. It’s like going out with slingshots and pebbles against an army of terminators on defense.

 

[Schleprock]

Yeah, well when your dad is going to beat you if you miss a pass it I guess builds your completion percentage. So does a dink and dunk offense.

Tom Brady loves him some dink and dunk, so do Pats fans. It's a nice plate to eat your 6 or 7 Super Bowls off of.

 

[Etuoo33]

Sure. I never said he wasn't capable. But most of his passes are short and intermediate. Yes, we can speculate on the small sampling of his longer passes that he'd be just as accurate. However, that isn't the world he has been living in. Perhaps he occasionally shys away from the deep pass as well as play calling, coverage, protection and personnel all playing their parts. I'm simply saying his lofty completion percentage has been helped by the large percentage of short and intermediate throws he's been making. He's averaging around 250 yards per game and 2.2 TDs when both passing and rushing are factored in. He ain't Brett Favre, Marino or Warner just yet fellas.

Dink and dunk? You mean like Brady all these years?

 

[FinSolari]

Flores has said in one of his pressers that the coaches do encourage Tua to be more aggressive with his throws.

Tua just needs reps (which will build more trust) and more time (OL improvement) to begin completing more deep passes.

I have no doubt next season you will see a more complete quarterback health willing.

 

[Nawledge]

This narrative that Tua's accuracy is attributed to a dink and dunk offense kind of reminds me of the narrative that Tannehill couldn't throw a deep ball. When Miami finally asked Tannehill to throw the ball downfield, we found out that he was actually really good at it. I think we are going to find out that Tua's accuracy down the field is going to be top notch when the line gives him a little more time and the offensive scheme asks him to throw the ball downfield at a higher rate. Tua was a very accurate deep thrower in college, so with more experience and a better roster around him, I would expect Tua's accuracy at all levels of the field would be equivalent to his accuracy at Alabama.

From Barry Jackson...

Accuracy might be Tagovailoa’s most special gift. Yes, the completion percentage might be lower if Tagovailoa threw deep more often. But he has been on target with deeper throws this season, completing 9 for 17 on passes that traveled at least 20 air yards; that’s second best behind Murray

 

[Nawledge]

To be fair, Ryan’s deep ball wasn’t good at first as he had a tendency to overshoot the target - and even in his own words he said,”I’m trying to be too perfect” on those. About year 4 or so is when a weakness turned to a strength. I think he started thinking less and it showed. I remember a ball to Stills against the Chargers that left us all dumbfounded as it dropped right in and about 1 inch prior to running out of end zone space. Good stuff. Tua is accurate short, medium and long. We’ve seen that consistently.

that throw by tanny was incredible, an absolute dart while getting obliterated

 

[Ray R]

This narrative that Tua's accuracy is attributed to a dink and dunk offense kind of reminds me of the narrative that Tannehill couldn't throw a deep ball. When Miami finally asked Tannehill to throw the ball downfield, we found out that he was actually really good at it. I think we are going to find out that Tua's accuracy down the field is going to be top notch when the line gives him a little more time and the offensive scheme asks him to throw the ball downfield at a higher rate. Tua was a very accurate deep thrower in college, so with more experience and a better roster around him, I would expect Tua's accuracy at all levels of the field would be equivalent to his accuracy at Alabama.

Probably the same posters - LOL