You can't praise him either is my only point or even suggest that there are bigger problems on the team without being insulted.
Tua isn't the reason we lost. But at the same time he could've been the reason we got back in the game a few times and then he failed.
There were a couple of dozen players that could have stepped up and made some big plays but didn't either, football is the ultimate team sport. Pat didn't beat the raiders today scoring 19 points, his defense won that game our's missed 20 tackles.
Hell, I don't even know if I'd say the Chiefs defense won it today... more like the Raiders gave it to them with their kicker missing 3 field goals and the center inexplicably snapping it when the QB wasn't expecting it at the end of the game. Sometimes it's as simple as dumb luck.
Unfortunately it wasn't dumb luck we broke an NFL record for missed tackles.
Well said. Tua did not look very good (the offense in general did not) until the game was basically out of reach and over.
The shoulda, woulda, coulda game gets old. Fact of the matter is if your ST and defense give up 30 points and set the record ever for the amount of missed tackles, there is almost nothing anyone could do to win that game. Add on the atrocious play calling, ridiculous amount of penalties and the fact the refs had it out for us and it's a non starter. Everything lined up against this team before you even think to blame Tua. To do so is patently absurd.
I agree that some aspects of the team need a reboot. Specifically the general manager. I don’t think I would pull the plug on McDaniel and I definitely wouldn’t pull the plug on Tua. I don’t think that there is any doubt that the team needs an infusion physicality. Both on offense and especially on defense. I think McDaniel can adapt.
E listen man... not once did I say we lost because of Tua. But because I stated he comes up short in times when we need him, everyone of you cultists interpret that as I or we blame him for everything. That's not the case. But, he does come up short when needed, he's been doing this since year 1 and it hasn't changed. There are multiple examples of this. Don't ask me to post them, I'm so tired of arguing with you guys... the proof is there, you just have to look for it
If I have to look for it with a magnifying glass it's not really there is it? I'm not really responding to your post per sae, but the general guise of your other thread in this one. I noticed some post of yours where you drew a line where Tua "should" have escaped ona single play and kind of just shook my head. The amount of things you need to throw away to make that a reality (time, space, pressure, sight) to do such a thing is just so far out there to think, well "he shoulda just done this". It in no way works like that, at all.
You’re always welcome!
I can pretty much agree with this. Although I don't think our FO earns a C, but that's just me. I would say C for coaching staff. Agreed, our entire organization sucks. I WANT ANDY WEIDL FROM THE STEELERS TO BUILD US A REAL TEAM...
I can and I do accept that. I don't care one way or another what boat anyone falls in. I just want to see our team win and my view on it after watching 30 plus years of failing is very cynical. Some people here talk about be patient, we need more to evaluate and it's a new year, blah blah blah. It's the same **** every year. And that play I drew a red line for his escape out the pocket, is totally doable for a mobile qb. I stopped even trying to argue because ppl saying there were 3 defenders with ingold on his ass. As if Tua escapes the pocket there, one or two of those guys wouldn't have come off their position to come up and tackle Tua leaving the receiver open behind them. It's so easy but some ppl can't accept it, it's like I have to argue every single step in the process because they can't see 3 steps ahead.
I get it brotha. I do. But it's a forest through the trees situation last night. There was so terribly much going wrong that the thing not going as wrong, Tua, to be put at fault just seems so odd to me. Perhaps just look at the totality of everything, assign a different team to it and say, could ______ have saved this game. If you can honestly say any other QB could have pulled out a win in those conditions I would love to hear it.
