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Tua or Mac Jones?

Which one?

  • Tua

    Votes: 76 67.3%

  • Mac

    Votes: 37 32.7%
  • Total voters
    113
Nappy Roots said:
I was wrong, the data I was looking at was in total not in a per game or pass perspective. Miami playing 8 games vs other teams only playing 7 skewed it a bit.

Regardless just some quick math because I am bored at work and I am interested in the actual truth.

Here is passing plays per blitz:


Balt - 3.0
Phi - 3.0
Was - 3.2
GB - 3.3
Chi - 3.4
LAC - 3.4
Ind - 3.4
Sea - 3.5
NYJ - 3.5
Ram - 3.5
Hou - 3.6
NE - 3.8
TB - 3.8
Cle - 3.8
Raid - 4.0
Dal - 4.0
Det - 4.1
Min - 4.2
Buff - 4.2
NYG - 4.2
NO - 4.4
Atl - 4.5
MIA - 4.6
Car - 4.7
Pitt - 4.9
Ari - 5.0
Cin - 5.2
KC - 5.3
Jax - 5.6
SF - 5.7
Tenn - 5.9
Den - 6.4

Miami ranks 10th in least blitzed.
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Now show their pressure rates. 😂

This is just showing how bad Miami’s OL is. One of the least blitzed but near the top in pressures allowed.
 
danmarino7051 said:
Now show their pressure rates. 😂

This is just showing how bad Miami’s OL is. One of the least blitzed but near the top in pressures allowed.
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I just posted the pressure rates too. Theres no one on this board that will say Miami's offensive line is good or even okay. This is what I dont get about you guys. We watch the games, we see the data and we clearly see Tua isn't in the best environment from a protection stand point. But he is almost DOUBLE the INT % of every other starting QB in the league except 1 and its Geno Smith. Hes also Fumbled the ball 6 times.

Hes 10th least blitzed and 13th in pressure rate, and again I agree it doesn't show truly how bad it is, but it goes to show you that other QBs around the league are pressured a lot and they aren't playing as shitty as Tua has up to this point. Its not an excuse, he should be better when you're a 55 mil a year guy. I don't know how this is still a debate lol
 
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Nappy Roots said:
I just posted the pressure rates too. Theres no one on this board that will say Miami's offensive line is good or even okay. This is what I dont get about you guys. We watch the games, we see the data and we clearly see Tua isn't in the best environment from a protection stand point. But he is almost DOUBLE the INT % of every other starting QB in the league except 1 and its Geno Smith. Hes also Fumbled the ball 6 times.

Hes 10th and least blitzed and 13th in pressure rate, and again I agree it doesn't show truly how bad it is, but it goes to show you that other QBs around the league are pressured a lot and they aren't playing as shitty as Tua has up to this point. It’s not an excuse, he should be better when you're a 55 mil a year guy. I don't know how this is still a debate lol
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You keep claiming 13th. Tua is 5th in fastest to get pressured and he’s tied for 6th in total pressures. Even though he’s one of the least blitzed QB’s in the league and gets the ball out super fast.

He’s had two bad games. Two games with a total of 6 INT’s. 3 of those were tipped balls or last minute throw up and pray passes. He’s obviously not playing like he did over the last three years, but blaming the offense in general, and Tua specifically, as to why this team is 2-6 is just wrong.
 
danmarino7051 said:
You keep claiming 13th. Tua is 5th in fastest to get pressured and he’s tied for 6th in total pressures. Even though he’s one of the least blitzed QB’s in the league and gets the ball out super fast.

He’s had two bad games. Two games with a total of 6 INT’s. 3 of those were tipped balls or last minute throw up and pray passes. He’s obviously not playing like he did over the last three years, but blaming the offense in general, and Tua specifically, as to why this team is 2-6 is just wrong.
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What do you mean I keep claiming? Are you having trouble reading the numbers? I literally posted the numbers, I am sorry you're having trouble. Hopefully someone else can dumb it down for you.

"5th fastest to get pressured". Way to let the numbers play in your favor. Miami is tied for 5th fastest, they are tied with 9 teams for 5th. So in reality almost half the league is pressured the same rate or faster. These are facts, dont skew them for your argument.
 
NY8123 said:
This is like asking the question "would you rather have your dick in a vice or your nuts in a zip tie?" either way you're likely done using either.
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I mean if you dont tighten the zip tie too much, i imagine it could be pleasurable
 
Nappy Roots said:
I just posted the pressure rates too. Theres no one on this board that will say Miami's offensive line is good or even okay. This is what I dont get about you guys. We watch the games, we see the data and we clearly see Tua isn't in the best environment from a protection stand point. But he is almost DOUBLE the INT % of every other starting QB in the league except 1 and its Geno Smith. Hes also Fumbled the ball 6 times.

Hes 10th least blitzed and 13th in pressure rate, and again I agree it doesn't show truly how bad it is, but it goes to show you that other QBs around the league are pressured a lot and they aren't playing as shitty as Tua has up to this point. Its not an excuse, he should be better when you're a 55 mil a year guy. I don't know how this is still a debate lol
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Tua has had a few terrible games, no doubt. Nobody has disputed that. Doesn’t change the fact that he is playing behind a bad OL.
 
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