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[bdizzle00]

Weird because he seems to be injured a lot.

People seem to forget his injuries and surgeries at Alabama as well. Besides the hip, he had surgery on both his ankles and his hand. The Injury concerns with Tua are valid.

 

[bdizzle00]

In your view, is it more difficult to win a championship with a great QB and a poor team, or an average QB and a great team?

If those are the choices, I’d go with it’s more difficult to win a championship with a great QB and a poor team vs. an average QB and a great team.

But, I think it’s far more difficult to win a championship with an average QB and a great team vs. a great QB and an average team.

 

[Neptune]

Oh hooray ANOTHER Tua thread, I was beginning to think no one had noticed his existence.
Tua does not exist unless there are at least 2 new Tua threads per week.
Keep Tua relevant start a new thread today.

 

[Mach2]

If those are the choices, I’d go with it’s more difficult to win a championship with a great QB and a poor team vs. an average QB and a great team.

But, I think it’s far more difficult to win a championship with an average QB and a great team vs. a great QB and an average team.

I think history would indeed bear that out as true. I would also say if we had an average O-line, we would likely be leading the AFCE.

I think that is the point many posters are trying to express. Obviously that is conjecture, but it is based on sound reasoning, IMO.

 

[Mach2]

Oh hooray ANOTHER Tua thread, I was beginning to think no one had noticed his existence.
Tua does not exist unless there are at least 2 new Tua threads per week.
Keep Tua relevant start a new thread today.

Well, to be fair, he is our QB1. The position widely recognized as the most important in football.

Feel free to start a thread on something else. I'll gladly participate.

 

[Honeybadger08]

If you are saying RPO is one reason the ball comes out quickly, possibly. If you are saying it is the main reason, I don't know about that. Only a film study breakdown of non RPO plays can tell you.

My main question about the post though, is why couldn't you just leave it at the very valid question?

Why did you find it necessary to hurl the offhanded, devisive insult of "Tua apologists"? (Serious question, as I want to understand)

IMO, all that does is promote bickering,for no good reason. Whether someone is an ardent, even to the point of being a "blind homer", has little bearing on his actual performance.

What is the point, or value of putting a label like "apologist", "ball licker", etc on a person who just wants to root for his team and QB?

I don't get it. Is it a "misery loves company" thing? Is it that ppl are so pissed off they didn't draft the player they wanted, that they have to direct that anger at others?

Let me know what you think drives this phenomenon in your case, or any others out there, as I'm trying to understand the thought process.

Sorry if I happened to upset anyone, was not my intention. I should have said Tua supporters, not the term I used.

 

[bdizzle00]

I think history would indeed bear that out as true. I would also say if we had an average O-line, we would likely be leading the AFCE.

I think that is the point many posters are trying to express. Obviously that is conjecture, but it is based on sound reasoning, IMO.

I get it, I really do. And you might be right, in fact I hope you are.

But some people seem to want to pay more attention or give more weight to what might happen vs. what is happening, that’s the part that doesn’t resonate with me.

 

[Mach2]

Sorry if I happened to upset anyone, was not my intention. I should have said Tua supporters, not the term I used.

Not sure why you went there at all, given the context of my post.

It was a discussion of the "pressure" statistic, and how it related to the O-line. It had nothing to do with Tua, beyond the fact that if he (or any other QB for that matter) held the ball longer, the pressure and sack numbers would be higher.

It didn't "upset" me in the least.

My question is why do that, when my post had zero to do with Tua's ability one way or the other?

Is your displeasure with the guy, or the views of other posters, so deep it overrides every other discussion?

Do you see what I'm getting at here? It wasn't a discussion abou Tua. It wasn't pro or con on the QB. It was about the O-line, and the pressure stat in general.

 

[Andyman]

A lot of that jives with the eyeball from fans who haven't written him off yet. Some people on this board who judge him super harshly have a black and white view of it...if he's not Marino, he's trash. If that's true, there's a LOT of trash in the Hall of Fame. Conversely those who already believe he's the savior dismiss any of his negatives.

There is quite a bit about his game that is translating to the NFL, via progression. He panics sometimes and that just proves the game hasn't fully slowed down for him yet...yet being the key word. Will it? No way for anybody to know without time and experience. He hasn't shown anything that says "he'll never get there."

What he IS showing, and to me it's fairly crucial, is that the game isn't too big for him...particularly in crunch time. Unless he keeps getting injured often, the Dolphins have to give him his shot, IMO.

Great post. Couldn’t agree more with all of it. And to be honest, if I saw what was around me pre-snap as the QB, I’d be panicking on every play. He has little to work with and has still made plays.

 

[Mach2]

I get it, I really do. And you might be right, in fact I hope you are.

But some people seem to want to pay more attention or give more weight to what might happen vs. what is happening, that’s the part that doesn’t resonate with me.

There are optimists, pessimists, and realists in all walks of life brother.

Not to get into a philosophical debate, but those thing are ingrained from childhood and life in general.

It is what it is.

 

[bdizzle00]

There are optimists, pessimists, and realists in all walks of life brother.

Not to get into a philosophical debate, but those thing are ingrained from childhood and life in general.

It is what it is.

I guess I identify as a cynically optimistic realist. LOL.

 

[Mach2]

I guess I identify as a cynically optimistic realist. LOL.

Ahhhh...schizophrenic then...lol.