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Looking at how Tua's season is going so far, I have to admit, though I believed in Tua, and thought he was going to be a quality QB, he is having a season that I really did not expect.

If you look at the most important stat, TDs, he is in 6th place among starting QBs with 15 TDs, that's really impressive, but then a reminder he was out for 2 1/2 weeks, and it becomes insanely impressive.

Well how about INTs that counter all those TDs? He is 3rd least among starters, with only 3 INTs. Though true he may have benefitted from not playing in those 2 1/2 games, he also has a lot close to, as many, or more attempts then some starting QBs.

Yards is where Tua is missing, putting him further behind (14th), but if you look at yards per attempt, Tua jumps up to 1st among starters. Some might say it's more due to his elite receivers and the yards they get after the catch, which would be true if it was not that Tua is also among the leaders distance per pass. If anything, Tua rarely passes short.

Accuracy is where Tua does his damage, and the stats prove it with him having the 3rd highest accuracy % among starting QBs.

Finally I end with the obvious, with all those stats, Tua has the highest QB Rating among all starters, with a 115.9 rat...The next closest QB is Hurts with a 107.8, that's more then 8 points better then his closest rival.

Tua is not perfect, he missed some key passes yesterday in pressure time, and will need to get that cleaned up, but considering he is also the Top QB in the 4th quarter, I am guessing those misses will not be the norm.

Basically Tua with his great weapons and better blocking, is having an amazing and fun season.
 
Good post.

Although the two throws he missed yesterday bugged me in the moment, I give him a pass on both. First, we have seen him make much harder throws in the clutch. Second, the throw to Smyth was thrown off by Smyth turning to look up field. The throw to Waddle was short but I honestly think that was intentional. He was trying to make sure to not over throw it and I think he underestimated the amount of ground the DB could make up. Finally, the play on the ball was a bit lucky. The CB wasn't looking and he barely touched it. 9 times out of 10, that is a first down. IMO, they are looking to convert first on that play and score second. They would prefer to end the game in the victory formation to scoring too early.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Good post.

Although the two throws he missed yesterday bugged me in the moment, I give him a pass on both. First, we have seen him make much harder throws in the clutch. Second, the throw to Smyth was thrown off by Smyth turning to look up field. The throw to Waddle was short but I honestly think that was intentional. He was trying to make sure to not over throw it and I think he underestimated the amount of ground the DB could make up. Finally, the play on the ball was a bit lucky. The CB wasn't looking and he barely touched it. 9 times out of 10, that is a first down. IMO, they are looking to convert first on that play and score second. They would prefer to end the game in the victory formation to scoring too early.
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The one to Waddle wasn’t just a little underthrown. It was badly underthrown. 9 out of 10 times that’s a PBU. Just because Tua is playing great doesn’t mean we have to make excuses for a poor throw - all QBs make poor throws.
 
tay0365 said:
Looking at how Tua's season is going so far, I have to admit, though I believed in Tua, and thought he was going to be a quality QB, he is having a season that I really did not expect.

If you look at the most important stat, TDs, he is in 6th place among starting QBs with 15 TDs, that's really impressive, but then a reminder he was out for 2 1/2 weeks, and it becomes insanely impressive.

Well how about INTs that counter all those TDs? He is 3rd least among starters, with only 3 INTs. Though true he may have benefitted from not playing in those 2 1/2 games, he also has a lot close to, as many, or more attempts then some starting QBs.

Yards is where Tua is missing, putting him further behind (14th), but if you look at yards per attempt, Tua jumps up to 1st among starters. Some might say it's more due to his elite receivers and the yards they get after the catch, which would be true if it was not that Tua is also among the leaders distance per pass. If anything, Tua rarely passes short.

Accuracy is where Tua does his damage, and the stats prove it with him having the 3rd highest accuracy % among starting QBs.

Finally I end with the obvious, with all those stats, Tua has the highest QB Rating among all starters, with a 115.9 rat...The next closest QB is Hurts with a 107.8, that's more then 8 points better then his closest rival.

Tua is not perfect, he missed some key passes yesterday in pressure time, and will need to get that cleaned up, but considering he is also the Top QB in the 4th quarter, I am guessing those misses will not be the norm.

Basically Tua with his great weapons and better blocking, is having an amazing and fun season.
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A big thing I like to look at is TD to INT ratio. At 15:3 or 5:1 that’s first team all pro all the time, every time. Before the season we talked about this. A lot of guys wete hoping for 2 or 2.5 to 1 as realistic. I said nothing less than 4:1 is what iI wanted to see. At these levels you typically have a playoff team. Here’s to him keeping it up
 
royalshank said:
The one to Waddle wasn’t just a little underthrown. It was badly underthrown. 9 out of 10 times that’s a PBU. Just because Tua is playing great doesn’t mean we have to make excuses for a poor throw - all QBs make poor throws.
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It honestly looked like he couldn't muster the arm for that throw, but he's made bigger throws in the past. His arm might have been wore down by the 4th quarter. I'd like to see him build some arm strength in the off-season.
 
royalshank said:
The one to Waddle wasn’t just a little underthrown. It was badly underthrown. 9 out of 10 times that’s a PBU. Just because Tua is playing great doesn’t mean we have to make excuses for a poor throw - all QBs make poor throws.
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What went through my mind on Tua’s 2 poor 4th quarter throws was that Tua was trying to be “perfect” with the throws rather than just letting it flow.

What I would like to see from Waddle is him being able to go up and high point balls. I noticed last year as well he does not do a good job of that.

If that were Parker, Gesicki, Higgins, Chase or Tyreek that ball is caught 9 out of 10 times.

Best a I could tell that pass was obviously under thrown, but didn’t get deflected. Waddle was waiting to basket catch it rather than aggressively going after it.

That’s the one skill set I think he needs to develop to be a truly elite receiver. That to me is the biggest gap between him and Tyreek.
 
Anyone know if Tua was asked about his throws to Smythe and Waddle in the 4th?

Those don’t have to do with his arm strength.

I would be interested to hear how he interprets what happened to him on those throws.
 
AdamD13 said:
Anyone know if Tua was asked about his throws to Smythe and Waddle in the 4th?

Those don’t have to do with his arm strength.

I would be interested to hear how he interprets what happened to him on those throws.
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Yes. He talked about the throw to Smythe in the post-game press conference. He said when Smythe turned his head he wasn’t sure if Smythe was going to turn up field or not so it effected his throw. He became indecisive right when he was letting the ball go because of what Smythe did.
 
rickd13 said:
Yes. He talked about the throw to Smythe in the post-game press conference. He said when Smythe turned his head he wasn’t sure if Smythe was going to turn up field or not so it effected his throw. He became indecisive right when he was letting the ball go because of what Smythe did.
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Thanks.

Would have been wise to run for it then, defender was about 10 yards back and Smythe could have then blocked.
 
AdamD13 said:
Anyone know if Tua was asked about his throws to Smythe and Waddle in the 4th?

Those don’t have to do with his arm strength.

I would be interested to hear how he interprets what happened to him on those throws.
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I think you might have nailed it with your prior post.

As I was watching the game yesterday, I also believed Tua was trying hard to throw the perfect pass, the pass where only the receiver can get it, and allow him to do something with it.

Tua has proven himself in the 4th going back to last year, maybe late 2020, and pressure time is not too big for him, if anything, he seems to find that extra gear to make even better throws, and consistent throws.
 
AgentXof12 said:
It honestly looked like he couldn't muster the arm for that throw, but he's made bigger throws in the past. His arm might have been wore down by the 4th quarter. I'd like to see him build some arm strength in the off-season.
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That throw had zero to do with arm strength. He just misplaced the ball. Got to remember that he had a 15 mph wind at his back and was probably worried about sailing the ball long (WR doesn't have a chance to a adjust on a overthrow). To me he just over compenstated for the wind and left it short.
 
AgentXof12 said:
It honestly looked like he couldn't muster the arm for that throw, but he's made bigger throws in the past. His arm might have been wore down by the 4th quarter. I'd like to see him build some arm strength in the off-season.
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Between that one and the Smythe pass, I wondered the same thing. Even though Smythe messed up, that ball was too low : didn’t have enough on it. It’s possible it was tired.
 
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