Two things can be true about this team

[bane]

Here are the two things I think

If we have tua all year we make wildcard and make playoffs third straight year. Which for this franchise is impressive. Please don’t tell me he wouldn’t beat titans and colts. I am not including Seahawks
So we be 7-5 and in great position. For wildcard

But

We would lose in the first round again

Now we are not going to make the playoffs this year.

This rebuild has topped out as a wildcard team.

Something else I think . This might piss off the time dolphin fans who think back to the 90s as great teams.

The team we have now is the team pretty much that we had in the 90s with Marino.

Always passing.
Oline not good at running
Defense mediocre
Couldn’t beat Buffalo

Only difference was Marino was hall of famer and won one round on the playoffs most years in the 90s. But he could not do more than that.

Tua is not a hall of fame player and his best is just getting us in playoffs (yea I know this year we won’t be in them because he was hurt )

When we had Marino
We got crushed so many times in the second round of playoffs because no running game or no defense to keep score low.

It’s the same thing now. Except tua isn’t as good as Marino so we are just stuck getting 7 or 6 seed and losing in playoffs.

But the teams from the 90s and now are focused on passing
Inconsistent defense or mediocre
Inconsistency with running game or none
Good receivers

It’s like watching same team and same problems I saw in the late 90s

How many cold weather games can we lose in the 90s and now? All because the teams are more physical. Then and now

This is so fixable but the guys they hire just won’t fix it. They think they know better
We suck in the trenches. Even when we made playoffs 7-out of 10 years in the 90s where we ever strong in the trenches?

These last three years with McDaniel . 2 making playoffs. Where we ever strong in trenches. No to both.

****ing so simple and these are making same mistakes that this franchise made in the 90s. Sorry but we usually were a wildcard team in 90s and would get killed in second round. Only getting there cause Marino. Tua is good enough to get us a 6 or 7 .seed. He isn’t Marino. But this coulda been addressed back then. And it shoulda been addressed with this current team.

Especially when you are trying to do the same exact thing but without a hall of fame qb. That is not a knock on tua. He is good enough to not be the problem. But against top teams he needs help to be part of Solution. .

 

[VAFinsfan72]

I agree, this has been happening for 30 years. Marino's last 4 playoffs losses were by scores of 37-22, 17-3, 38-3, and 62-7.

We are pretty much the same team as we were last year and the year before.

The difference this year was Tua's 4 game absence and the defense is not as good as last year and the year before.

We would have beaten the Titans and Colts with Tua and the loss to the Cardinals was a game we would have won last year and the year before since the defense was better.

So we would be 8-4 and probably make the playoffs as a WC only to be humiliated in the first round on the road like what usually happens.

We have reached our ceiling with this core of players.

There has to be a fundamental change to the way this team is built if we want to have different outcomes.

 

[superphin]

You are spot on with the comparison. We need an infusion of young talent at key positions mainly in the trenches. That's not going to happen because Grier sucks at drafting OL so we've peaked as a team. The best we can hope to see is maybe a playoff win here and there but we're not serious contenders for a SB not with the roster at hand.

 

[NYC#1finsfan]

What I want to know is, did Las Vegas pack 3,500 pounds of cold weather gear for Kansas City today? Boy, is there a disparity between the Dolphins and everyone else in cold weather!!! What a joke!

 

[Mello Yello]

There are a number of suspicious things about Miami.

Why didn't they focus on rebuilding the core of the team before drafting a QB when their roster was purged?
Why did they tank for a QB and then fail to build an offense around their young QB in 2020 and 2021?
Why did they initially hire a HC that wasn't all-in for the tank in the first place?
Why did they hire a HC who didn't like the QB they were in on?
Why didn't they prioritize hiring a HC who specialized in building QBs if that was the #1 goal?

Why did they hire a HC from the 49ers and not build a team that looked / played like the 49ers?
Why'd they go all-in on Tyreek Hill when they had just drafted Jaylen Waddle?
Why'd they draft a small WR when they could've drafted a Franchise OT like Penei Sewell to protect their QB?

Why have they not established the OL as one of the foremost concerns given Tua's size?
Why have they not reinforced the OL in light of Tua's injury history continuing in the NFL after college?
Why didn't we spend any money in FA to replace Liam Eichenberg who hasn't been good...ever?

It's simple stuff and I'm sure there are reasons but as said above, it's debatable that this will change. We're probably stuck with our fingers crossed that this team finds some upgrades and manages to do it relatively cheaply. Brewer was a great find, so there's hope...

 

[superphin]

There are a number of suspicious things about Miami.

Why didn't they focus on rebuilding the core of the team before drafting a QB when their roster was purged?
Why did they tank for a QB and then fail to build an offense around their young QB in 2020 and 2021?
Why did they initially hire a HC that wasn't all-in for the tank in the first place?
Why did they hire a HC who didn't like the QB they were in on?
Why didn't they prioritize hiring a HC who specialized in building QBs if that was the #1 goal?

Why did they hire a HC from the 49ers and not build a team that looked / played like the 49ers?
Why'd they go all-in on Tyreek Hill when they just drafted Jaylen Waddle?
Why'd they draft a small WR when they could've drafted a Franchise OT like Penei Sewell to protect their QB?

Why have they not established the OL as one of the foremost concerns given Tua's size?
Why have they not reinforced the OL in light of Tua's injury history continuing in the NFL after college?
Why didn't we spend any money in FA to replace Liam Eichenberg who hasn't been good...ever?

It's simple stuff and I'm sure there are reasons but as said above, it's debatable that this will change. We're probably stuck with our fingers crossed that this team finds some upgrades and manages to do it relatively cheaply. Brewer was a great find, so there's hope...

The answer to all those questions lies in Chris Grier's incompetence.

 

[Mello Yello]

The answer to all those questions lies in Chris Grier's incompetence.

Given my answer to most of those is a shrug of the shoulders...I think you may have it!

 

[teemu7]

It's coaching. Antonio pierce is also a tactical moron like McDaniel but he actually played the game at a high level and knows what it takes

McDaniel has zero ****ing clue.

 

[royalshank]

Here are the two things I think

If we have tua all year we make wildcard and make playoffs third straight year. Please don’t tell me he wouldn’t beat titans and colts. I am not including Seahawks
So we be 7-5 and in great position. For wildcard

But

We would lose in the first round again

Now we are not going to make the playoffs this year.

This rebuild has topped out as a wildcard team.

Something else I think . This might piss off the time dolphin fans who think back to the 90s as great teams.

This is the same team pretty much that we had in the 90s with Marino.

Always passing.
Oline not good at running
Defense mediocre

Only difference was Marino was hall of famer and won one round on the playoffs most years in the 90s. But he could not do more than that.

Tua is not a hall of fame player and his best is just getting us in playoffs (yea I know this year we won’t be in them because he was hurt )

When we had Marino
We got crushed so many times in the second round of playoffs because no running game or no defense to keep score low.

It’s the same thing now. Except tua isn’t as good as Marino so we are just stuck getting 7 or 6 seed and losing in playoffs.

But the teams from the 90s and now are focused on passing
Inconsistent defense or mediocre
Inconsistency with running game or none
Good receivers

It’s like watching same team and same problems I saw in the late 90s

This is so fixable but the guys they hire just won’t fix it. They think they know better
Sting in the trenches. Even when we made playoffs 7-out of 10 years in the 90s where we ever strong in the trenches?

These last three years with McDaniel . 2 making playoffs. Where we ever strong in trenches. No to both.

****ing so simple and these are making same mistakes that this franchise made in the 90s. Sorry but we usually were a wildcard team in 90s and would get killed in second round. Only getting there cause Marino. Tua is good enough to get us a 6 or 7 .seed. He isn’t Marino. But this coulda been addressed back then. And it shoulda been addressed with this current team.

Especially when you are trying to do the same exact thing but without a hall of fame qb. That is not a knock on tua. He is good enough to not be the problem. But against top teams he needs help to be part of Solution. .

Great post and great comparison. In the 90’s we had 2 HOF guys as HCs. The stupidity of this era’s team (penalties and fundamental breakdowns) makes watching these guys worse.

 

[AJDUHEJETKILLER]

driving home from syracuse today through buffalo( what a god awful place) and I told my wife about the trip to Buffalo in 91 playoffs losing 44-34…. I drove for hours in the snow watching a weak football team lose with little fight

I hear you loud and clear Bane. The design of this team simply won’t work for the long haul. Houston had some serious skill players but not a complete team.

I’m getting worn out - we simply can’t compete against the “better teams” forget the good teams

 

[AMakados10]

There are a number of suspicious things about Miami.

Why didn't they focus on rebuilding the core of the team before drafting a QB when their roster was purged?
Why did they tank for a QB and then fail to build an offense around their young QB in 2020 and 2021?
Why did they initially hire a HC that wasn't all-in for the tank in the first place?
Why did they hire a HC who didn't like the QB they were in on?
Why didn't they prioritize hiring a HC who specialized in building QBs if that was the #1 goal?

Why did they hire a HC from the 49ers and not build a team that looked / played like the 49ers?
Why'd they go all-in on Tyreek Hill when they just drafted Jaylen Waddle?
Why'd they draft a small WR when they could've drafted a Franchise OT like Penei Sewell to protect their QB?

Why have they not established the OL as one of the foremost concerns given Tua's size?
Why have they not reinforced the OL in light of Tua's injury history continuing in the NFL after college?
Why didn't we spend any money in FA to replace Liam Eichenberg who hasn't been good...ever?

It's simple stuff and I'm sure there are reasons but as said above, it's debatable that this will change. We're probably stuck with our fingers crossed that this team finds some upgrades and manages to do it relatively cheaply. Brewer was a great find, so there's hope...

“ Why did they tank for a QB and then fail to build an offense around their young QB in 2020 and 2021?”

Umm… Grier? The Dolphins certainly invested considerable resources in 2020-2021 to build an offense around Tua, Grier just didn’t hit on enough players.

2020
Rd 1 - Austin Jackson OT
Rd 2 - Robert Hunt OG
Rd 4 - Solomon Kindley OG

2021
Rd 1 - Jaylen Waddle WR
Rd 2 - Liam Eichenberg OT/OG
Rd 3 - Hunter Long TE

 

[Avigatorx]

There are a number of suspicious things about Miami.

Why didn't they focus on rebuilding the core of the team before drafting a QB when their roster was purged?
Why did they tank for a QB and then fail to build an offense around their young QB in 2020 and 2021?
Why did they initially hire a HC that wasn't all-in for the tank in the first place?
Why did they hire a HC who didn't like the QB they were in on?
Why didn't they prioritize hiring a HC who specialized in building QBs if that was the #1 goal?

Why did they hire a HC from the 49ers and not build a team that looked / played like the 49ers?
Why'd they go all-in on Tyreek Hill when they just drafted Jaylen Waddle?
Why'd they draft a small WR when they could've drafted a Franchise OT like Penei Sewell to protect their QB?

Why have they not established the OL as one of the foremost concerns given Tua's size?
Why have they not reinforced the OL in light of Tua's injury history continuing in the NFL after college?
Why didn't we spend any money in FA to replace Liam Eichenberg who hasn't been good...ever?

It's simple stuff and I'm sure there are reasons but as said above, it's debatable that this will change. We're probably stuck with our fingers crossed that this team finds some upgrades and manages to do it relatively cheaply. Brewer was a great find, so there's hope...

For most of them I think we can all agree, we have no clue. And I dont think Grier did either.

Id speculate an answer to the first question , which brings up another question that coincides with some of the other questions.

Yes, we were in a rebuild, but I think that the original plan in Griers mind was that Josh Rosen would be our next QB. We traded away a valuable pick for the kid, but then didnt build the team around him. Threw him to the wolves and Flores wrote the kid off as a flop (As we all know, Flores is the end all be all of QB evaluations)

We ended up tanking and drafting a QB. Ok, I see people saying Flores didnt want Tua. Im not buying that one bit. If Flo was pounding the table for another QB do you really think Grier would have told him to go to hell, live with the one Im getting you? I call bullshit there. Grier doesnt have those kind of balls. (If he has any at all)

Yes, this was the START of the rebuild. All of the other questions you pose are legit, and hell, we all wonder the same damn thing.

The answer to all of them is easy.

Grier has no vision, doesnt know what it takes to build a championship team, is horrible evaluating talent at Oline and linebackers (But admittedly great at finding RBs and decent on DBs)

We need a new GM that knows what he wants and makes it happen.

 

[VAFinsfan72]

What I want to know is, did Las Vegas pack 3,500 pounds of cold weather gear for Kansas City today? Boy, is there a disparity between the Dolphins and everyone else in cold weather!!! What a joke!

No wonder we are mocked because of it.

 

[VAFinsfan72]

What I want to know is, did Las Vegas pack 3,500 pounds of cold weather gear for Kansas City today? Boy, is there a disparity between the Dolphins and everyone else in cold weather!!! What a joke!

The temperature in KC was not much warmer than it was in GB last night and the Raiders managed to compete against what is supposedly a better team than the Packers. Heck we beat them a couple weeks ago by a much larger margin than the Chiefs beat them today.

 

[superphin]

The temperature in KC was not much warmer than it was in GB last night and the Raiders managed to compete against what is supposedly a better team than the Packers. Heck we beat them a couple weeks ago by a much larger margin than the Chiefs beat them today.

Division opponents tend to play each other tough. We usually played the Pats tough even though they were the superior team for 20 years.