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So I get this straight, Mia will start Tua. This accomplishes a lot. It gives him real world experience for next year OR for some, an audition for the Phins’ draft next year. You can choose. In the meantime, we have a bend but dont break defense that no matter what will keep the game close in the 4th. This makes sense as they came into this game with the best scoring defense. Lastly, Flores has institutionalized a “closer” like in baseball. If the starter and middle relief is not effective, he can go to this person in a pinch. This accomplishes a lot too. Because your starter keeps you in the game through three quarters, while your closer is only good in bursts. Is this formula sustainable? It can be and must be for this season. Long-term? Well we deal with that next year
 
I feel like it’s a formula that only works when your franchise QB is a rookie. I like the commitment to winning, but if your QB can’t play 4 quarters and close games he probably isn’t your guy. Right now I think the experience is something Tua can learn from. Hopefully, it is something we don’t have to see again moving forward (but the reality is the option is on the table for at least this season).
 
I feel like it’s a formula that only works when your franchise QB is a rookie. I like the commitment to winning, but if your QB can’t play 4 quarters and close games he probably isn’t your guy. Right now I think the experience is something Tua can learn from. Hopefully, it is something we don’t have to see again moving forward (but the reality is the option is on the table for at least this season).
The alternative is Tua as a rookie next year. Going through same things we are now. To me it shows how much Mia has come along as a team, to be able to have a defense to do this.
 
The alternative is Tua as a rookie next year. Going through same things we are now. To me it shows how much Mia has come along as a team, to be able to have a defense to do this.
Haven't yoi been paying attention? Boyer is trash, and needs to be replaced. Either that, or Boyer is awesome, and will be poached for a HC gig.

I've heard both within the last week. Both are ludicrous.

Worst to first in pts allowed. WTF are some ppl thinking?
 
unconventional year, thank God we have a capable coach calling the shots
 
So I get this straight, Mia will start Tua. This accomplishes a lot. It gives him real world experience for next year OR for some, an audition for the Phins’ draft next year. You can choose. In the meantime, we have a bend but dont break defense that no matter what will keep the game close in the 4th. This makes sense as they came into this game with the best scoring defense. Lastly, Flores has institutionalized a “closer” like in baseball. If the starter and middle relief is not effective, he can go to this person in a pinch. This accomplishes a lot too. Because your starter keeps you in the game through three quarters, while your closer is only good in bursts. Is this formula sustainable? It can be and must be for this season. Long-term? Well we deal with that next year
Has it worked this year? Yes. Can it work going forward and is that the way to go? No. First, Fitz won't play forever. Either Tua is your guy or he isn't. I totally hope he is or else we're back to square one. Legend QB's play great in the last 15 minutes but we're not going to know with Tua unless he's allowed to play the last 15 minutes. I'm trying to see both sides of the coin here and of course I get to make no decisions. We'll see what happens going forward but I hope Tua plays the whole game up in Buffalo.
 
Given the Fins skill level on offense vs defense, this is the only way they will win games. Its out of necessity. The Fins best unit is its D and in order to have them winning games, they need to be ultra conservative on offense with the main priority being not turning the ball over. Tua is better at doing that than Fitz. When the Fins desperatly need to score points, they need to take alot of risks in order to do so(given the state of their receiving weapons), which goes against their overall strategy.

Fitz is natural at taking risks which is the complete opposite of Tua's style and what he's comfortable with. Its no surprise Tua starts every game because he's the one that executes the overall strategy best. Its also no surprise that when they need to flip the strategy, Fitzpatrick is the one better suited to execute plan B.

If the Fins ever upgrade the talent level at offensive skill positions, they will hopefully do so to a level where they can move the ball at an acceptable level of risk. At that point, there wont be a need for a 'closer', the starter will be in his comfort zone in pretty much any situation.
 
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Has it worked this year? Yes. Can it work going forward and is that the way to go? No. First, Fitz won't play forever. Either Tua is your guy or he isn't. I totally hope he is or else we're back to square one. Legend QB's play great in the last 15 minutes but we're not going to know with Tua unless he's allowed to play the last 15 minutes. I'm trying to see both sides of the coin here and of course I get to make no decisions. We'll see what happens going forward but I hope Tua plays the whole game up in Buffalo.

I really wish Josh Rosen was the backup...Flo would have no choice but to let Tua sink or swim...i'm all for doing whatever it takes to win the game, but you have to think that the shuffling is going to take a toll on Tua's confidence
 
I really wish Josh Rosen was the backup...Flo would have no choice but to let Tua sink or swim...i'm all for doing whatever it takes to win the game, but you have to think that the shuffling is going to take a toll on Tua's confidence
We wouldn’t be in the playoff picture if we didn’t have Fitz to bail out Tua. Tua’s not ready, he is a project and I would bet that he is being pushed onto Flo. I bet the push came from Ross. This is looking like an audition for Tua to see if we need to draft another QB. In no way does Tua give us the best chance of winning IN BUFFALO! No one in their right mind can say that he does. In Buffalo, their D is going to eat Tua up. The Raiders made him look horrible. Looked like a scared Bernie Kosar dumping off 2 and 3 yard passes.
 
You've heard of change of pace backs...the Fins have a change of pace quarterback. Big brain time over there. Watch this take the league by storm
 
We wouldn’t be in the playoff picture if we didn’t have Fitz to bail out Tua. Tua’s not ready, he is a project and I would bet that he is being pushed onto Flo. I bet the push came from Ross. This is looking like an audition for Tua to see if we need to draft another QB. In no way does Tua give us the best chance of winning IN BUFFALO! No one in their right mind can say that he does. In Buffalo, their D is going to eat Tua up. The Raiders made him look horrible. Looked like a scared Bernie Kosar dumping off 2 and 3 yard passes.
At the bye, Fins were 3-3, in 2 of those losses, Fitzpatrick threw 3 INTs in one and 2 INTs in the other... Fitzpatrick is 31st in the NFL at 3%(3.3% career) INT% Tua is 2nd at 0.9%. If you think the Fins have the firepower on offense to win games despite throwing INTs every 33 pass attempts, then there's really nothing I can help you with... If Fitz had started all games, we'd be talking about the draft right now...
 
I really wish Josh Rosen was the backup...Flo would have no choice but to let Tua sink or swim...i'm all for doing whatever it takes to win the game, but you have to think that the shuffling is going to take a toll on Tua's confidence
If it does, he isn't "the guy" anyway.

Do you think getting the hook would have diminished Dan's confidence? I doubt it.
 
The Fins have the best backup QB in the NFL equivalent to the sixth man of the year in NBA terms and the closer in MLB jargon. However you want to label Fitz, it's a formula that has been working. I do think that Chan Gailey is to blame for calling 2 different game plans one for Tua and one for Fitz so I cannot completely blame Tua for his low YPG.........I don't know for sure but something is awry.........
 
If it does, he isn't "the guy" anyway.

Do you think getting the hook would have diminished Dan's confidence? I doubt it.
If it happens in yr 2.. that bad u need new qb...dolphins will draft another qb in 2021..in case Tua don't turn out be good.
 
Has it worked this year? Yes. Can it work going forward and is that the way to go? No. First, Fitz won't play forever. Either Tua is your guy or he isn't. I totally hope he is or else we're back to square one. Legend QB's play great in the last 15 minutes but we're not going to know with Tua unless he's allowed to play the last 15 minutes. I'm trying to see both sides of the coin here and of course I get to make no decisions. We'll see what happens going forward but I hope Tua plays the whole game up in Buffalo.
I hope he doesn't, if Tua plays the whole game the result will be a clear lose. He Is still miles away from competing with top teams. I think our best chance of winning Is with Fitz the whole game.
 
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