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Upside Case On The Dolphins Pass Rush Next Year

MARINO1384 said:
Sure if you read and comprehend any of my post the gripes are all there.

As for Grier I’ve said he probably should have been fired however in my defenses of him it’s not all doom and gloom. Grier has been good when we put resources into them. The free agents that we gave larger money to and most of the high draft picks have been for the most part good while his major faults are actually keeping said draft picks, not signing guys early like hunt and Wilkins and the straight up ignoring things like the oline last year.

It’s the same thing with Tua, a ton of people say he sucks when he doesn’t. Hes a very good qb who sucks at staying healthy but there’s a good portion that’s adamant that he’s just not good overall. When you have people who claim a guy that lead the nfl in comp%, passer rating and passing yards the last 3 years and you say he sucks, it’s just dumb.

There’s a large group that tends to just pick a side and that’s there narrative to the extreme, I prefer to analyze everything in the middle. Whats the point of repeating Grier sucks, Tua sucks 20 million times this offseason when we can look at the good and the bad they may bring and what can potentially happen. You probably just think I just defend because the doom and gloom crowd is rather large.
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Well I'll admit, I don't think I've ever seen any of your posts where you criticize the team. At all.

I've also acknowledged that not everything we've done is a total failure but the negative moves far outweigh the positive. Which is a net negative. And they way our team looks right now with our lack of resources and the people in charge, I just don't have any faith anymore. I guess that's what 25 years of straight sucking or being average has done to me
 
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MARINO1384 said:
Sure if you read and comprehend any of my post the gripes are all there.

As for Grier I’ve said he probably should have been fired however in my defenses of him it’s not all doom and gloom. Grier has been good when we put resources into them. The free agents that we gave larger money to and most of the high draft picks have been for the most part good while his major faults are actually keeping said draft picks, not signing guys early like hunt and Wilkins and the straight up ignoring things like the oline last year.

It’s the same thing with Tua, a ton of people say he sucks when he doesn’t. Hes a very good qb who sucks at staying healthy but there’s a good portion that’s adamant that he’s just not good overall. When you have people who claim a guy that lead the nfl in comp%, passer rating and passing yards the last 3 years and you say he sucks, it’s just dumb.

There’s a large group that tends to just pick a side and that’s their narrative to the extreme, I prefer to analyze everything in the middle. Whats the point of repeating Grier sucks, Tua sucks 20 million times this offseason when we can look at the good and the bad they may bring and what can potentially happen. You probably just think I just defend because the doom and gloom crowd is rather large.
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Dude, if you think Tua is very good, get on the Huntley train. He is elite. He had a game with a 95% completion percentage. Elite! I have the nerd chart to prove it!

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Danny said:
we could be out of it by week 18
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Only if Tua is hurt and then a Phillips injury would be irrelevant.

My goal remains winning in the post season above all else, so Phillips need not show up until Halloween, IMO.
 
eMCee85 said:
Lol cmon man your too smart to get your hopes up. The key here is IF, and that's a big dang IF. Have you ever seen how they repair an Achilles? It's crazy. They literally drill holes in the heel bone, put some type of steel braided type thin rope through there and attach it to the torn part of the Achilles and pull it back together. It's nuts.

Ain't no way we can depend on Phillips now after his knee and now this.

Chubb, he basically ripped every single thing that's possible to rip in there. I'm surprised he still has a knee! Lol. Stick a fork in those two. They're done.

We literally have a one, maybe two man DL, half an OL with two of that half always injured. And thats not even talking about the paper thinness of the rest of the team. We are more screwed than a lot of people think but I'm just basically sitting back this year. I'm not really going to kill peoples annual (hope or excitedness) but it's not going to be a pretty year.
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Unfortunately, I am on the same page with you. Now if all the pundits would take this attitude and predict the Dolphins at the bottom of the AFC East, then we will win the division this year because Miami never does what you expect them to do. 😂
 
The Ghost said:
Only if Tua is hurt and then a Phillips injury would be irrelevant.

My goal remains winning in the post season above all else, so Phillips need not show up until Halloween, IMO.
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to win in the post season you need to get to the post season. you get to the post season by having your best players play
 
phinsforlife said:
to win in the post season you need to get to the post season. you get to the post season by having your best players play
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We went to the post season without him in 2023 and likely would've last year too if not for Tua's injury. Tua's had a winning record every year so if he's healthy, I already expect to make the playoffs.

Getting to the post season isn't enough of a goal for me to expose that dude to a whole season's worth of football only to not have him when it the games actually count.

If they can't get a wild card without him, it doesn't make a difference. If we didn't have Chop, I might feel a bit different.

I am not playing him for at least two months, its your right to disagree.

If he's going to play half a season, I'd rather it be the second half.
 
The Ghost said:
We went to the post season without him in 2023 and likely would've last year too if not for Tua's injury. Tua's had a winning record every year so if he's healthy, I already expect to make the playoffs.

Getting to the post season isn't enough of a goal for me to expose that dude to a whole season's worth of football only to not have him when it the games actually count.

If they can't get a wild card without him, it doesn't make a difference. If we didn't have Chop, I might feel a bit different.

I am not playing him for at least two months, its your right to disagree.

If he's going to play half a season, I'd rather it be the second half.
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So I assume you wouldn't resign him because you don't think he can stay on the field?
 
phinsforlife said:
So I assume you wouldn't resign him because you don't think he can stay on the field?
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I wouldn't re-sign him for more than a year. I absolutely love the player and it kills me that this happened to him but as far as counting on him, that ship has sailed. The only value I can get from him now is the 2nd half of 2025 and the postseason.

If he can make it through that, he'd be looking at a one year deal with incentives, best case scenario.
 
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