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Vance Joseph Needs Reminder of His Own Philosophies

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When asked about his vision for the defensive unit back in May, this is what he said. http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article77712732.html

After 2 games, I think Joseph should sit down and make an honest assessment of the games he's been calling. I believe his defense is doing exactly what he hoped to avoid...reacting to the offense. Joseph also made a self criticism after the Seattle game, for which I give him credit, for not being aggressive in his play calling...especially on Seattle's game winning drive.

In the Patriot's game, we seemed to play zone and off-man coverage for a majority of the game. The Pats passing game has always been predicated on their smaller receivers finding one-on-one mismatches and getting open quickly in space. I think more aggressive, press coverages were called for against the Patriots. Without playing press, Joseph took away the only advantages our CBs have, size and strength. Playing off coverages played right into the hands of the Patriot's offense. I also saw times when more pressure could have been applied to hopefully get Garappolo to speed up his timing and make him more uncomfotable.

Overall, I think Joseph's D design is sound and the defense seems to have cutdown on mental mistakes, but Jospeh can greatly help the development of the defensive team by staying true to the philosophy he laid out in the offseason.


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/s...o-salguero/article77712732.html#storylink=cpy
 
Well, McCain is not better in press. He is a holdover from the previous regime who was a small, quick slot guy. He's just not good enough to cover those guys. Press wouldn't help him. Xavien Howard played well. Yes, he is a press guy, but the fact is that Howard was exceptional for a rookie. The one guy who would definitely benefit from press is Maxwell. But, he avoided contact religiously so far this season. I think he is still hurt. I don't know how much of that is strategy and how much of it is playing what his personnel does comparatively better at this point in time. But, it wasn't good enough.

One real problem with the wide 9 is that it allows run lanes. A big bruising power back like Lagarrette Blount is going to be tough to stop for a soft LB like Jenkins. Without DL to contest those plays and clog the run lanes, its like giving a mack truck momentum ... not an easy thing to stop.

We just have to face it, the New England offense is good. It's not superior personnel, it's Josh McDaniels, Bill Belichick and their preparation. They plug in journeymen OL and still open run lanes. The Seahawks are one of the better running teams in the league as well. Despite our personnel improvements, we still are not built to stop the run ... and our entire division has a run game.
 
Help me understand this because I was pretty sure one of the reasons the Dolphins traded for Maxwell and drafted Howard was because they wanted to play more press man coverages and get physical with the bigger receivers in the league but what I saw in the Seattle game and the highlights of the game yesterday that we've been playing off man and zone. That doesn't seem to fit the scheme to the players.
 
Digital said:
Well, McCain is not better in press. He is a holdover from the previous regime who was a small, quick slot guy. He's just not good enough to cover those guys. Press wouldn't help him. Xavien Howard played well. Yes, he is a press guy, but the fact is that Howard was exceptional for a rookie. The one guy who would definitely benefit from press is Maxwell. But, he avoided contact religiously so far this season. I think he is still hurt. I don't know how much of that is strategy and how much of it is playing what his personnel does comparatively better at this point in time. But, it wasn't good enough.

One real problem with the wide 9 is that it allows run lanes. A big bruising power back like Lagarrette Blount is going to be tough to stop for a soft LB like Jenkins. Without DL to contest those plays and clog the run lanes, its like giving a mack truck momentum ... not an easy thing to stop.

We just have to face it, the New England offense is good. It's not superior personnel, it's Josh McDaniels, Bill Belichick and their preparation. They plug in journeymen OL and still open run lanes. The Seahawks are one of the better running teams in the league as well. Despite our personnel improvements, we still are not built to stop the run ... and our entire division has a run game.
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You would think, in a wide 9 alignment, those run lanes would be up the middle and not around the outside. I would think the DE would be lined up wide enough to where the RB couldn't get the edge on an outside run.
 
His answer is too play off coverage and blitz the guy who gets rid of the ball in 1.5 seconds?

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The real culprit for the big first half deficit, and the loss by extension was not having a defensive game plan that focused on stopping a short, precise passing game by the Pats. Especially considering that their offensive weapons in the passing game were the TE, Amendola, Edelman, and Hogan. With those guys out there we should have been on the line of scrimmage and disrupting routes from the get go. The deep ball wasn't a huge threat.
 
My problem with the wide 9 was on the pass rush, not run defense. The tackles release wide and left a huge lane for the QB to step into to hit those short passes. As soon as we blitzed Alonso right up the middle we seemed to give them something else to worry about. Of course he missed the tackle but whatever.....

Seems like that defense took away any line stunts. You know, the crossing that always confuses our OL.
 
Joseph doesn't have the players he needs, thanks to Mike Tannenbaum.

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Miami Dolphins DE Mario Williams had 56 snaps: 1 tackle, 0 sacks, 0 tackles for loss, 0 QB hits, 0 pass deflections, 0 FF, 0 FR.
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Howard needs time; no reasonable person expected him to adjust to NFL gameday speed from the first second (see:pat Surtain). But he does have the tools and the skill, and he will succeed.

I am confident in Joseph, a coach everyone wanted but we stole as a DC. I cannot say the same for Gase; he seems to be one of those guys who's heard so much about how brilliant he is that he thinks too much and ends up circling back into basic Offensive sets that bring Defenses toward the line of scrimmage instead of backing them off of it. In the first half against the Pats, the longest play attempt from scrimmage was 9 yards. THAT'S why we couldn't get a running game going, even with Foster in.
 
datruth55 said:
Help me understand this because I was pretty sure one of the reasons the Dolphins traded for Maxwell and drafted Howard was because they wanted to play more press man coverages and get physical with the bigger receivers in the league but what I saw in the Seattle game and the highlights of the game yesterday that we've been playing off man and zone. That doesn't seem to fit the scheme to the players.
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It's similiar to when Lazor arrived on scene. How many times did he and Joe Schmo mention an uptempo offense??? Every single Sunday was the exact opposite of uptempo offense.
 
In his defense, the "attack" style has knocked out or hobbled 2 QBs so far. Blitzing our MLB is a new wrinkle to our defense that I've, honestly, never seen us do. The pressure that's work best has come up the middle. It was a tackle by Suh that hurt Wilson, and Kiki knocked Garoppolo out of the game. I'm not condoning injuries, but if we continue to do this opposing QBs will get nervous.
 
montequi said:
In his defense, the "attack" style has knocked out or hobbled 2 QBs so far. Blitzing our MLB is a new wrinkle to our defense that I've, honestly, never seen us do. The pressure that's work best has come up the middle. It was a tackle by Suh that hurt Wilson, and Kiki knocked Garoppolo out of the game. I'm not condoning injuries, but if we continue to do this opposing QBs will get nervous.
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VJ called for a lot more blitzes than I had accounted for in rewatching Sunday's game. Some got home, others didn't, but he was being more aggressive than just run fits and applied it to pass defense as well. Problem was vs a NE type offense with shortened drops is that it is designed to negate the rush and find openings behind the blitz, which they were able to do on more occasions than not.
 
Here we go again.....lets have a team void of talent and then blame the coordinator because he can't get them to play at a high level....how many HC, DC and OC must we go through before people start leveling the entire blame for losing seasons on the front office? That goes for QB too, we can win with Ryan, he is good enough to get the job done if he has talent on both sides of the ball....I'm not a huge fan of his because we can do better but if Sparano had RT instead of Henne we are in the playoffs....the OLine and DL are set, we are lacking LB and CB and depth on defense and RB, TE and depth on offense.....we will never get their with this FO because they don't know how to keep their own and add to it, they let 2-3 guys go and only replace 1 or 2 and this has been going on for 4-5 yrs....how can you legitimately evaluate the coaches with this roster....it would take everything to go right in order to win 9-10 games and no chance to win a SB
 
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