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i know its early, but i heard that miami is 3rd on list to reach SB, Tampa & Phili are the 1st 2. any one else hear any different?
 
I have no clue how they can have Philly at 2. Tampa has to be 1 b/c they won the bowl.

Actually, I wish we weren't that high so we could play the underdog role again.
 
I was just out there this past week. We are #3 in the N.F.L. and #1 in the A.F.C. in terms of odds. We are 8-1 in most sports books. Tampa and Philly are like 9-2 or pretty close to it.

We opened up at 12-1 after last year and hav been betted down to 8-1.

I guess Vegas likes Wann/spiel's offseason moves so far.
 
I think come December and playoff time we are underdogs no matter what off season moves we've made.
 
Last year we were best in AFC and we saw what happened there.
 
i just got my ticket. $100 @ 10 to 1

it was 8 to 1 in some places.
 
"Folks-

one must remember these odds are not based on who the casino thinks will win the SB, it's based on how many people bet on a team.

Take Oakland- they are ravaged by age and the cap, they won't sniff the super bowl again. Yet, because the Raiders (and other popular teams like Dallas) have huge followings (and that translates into fans betting on them) it drives their payout odds down.

This is why people like me are called "bookies". The object of the casino is to get the total money paid out in winnings to be equall or less than what's taken in. So if everybody bets on the Buccaneers, their odds go down. To encourage people to bet on the Bengals, their odds go way up.

No one is betting on Buffalo, so their odds remain high. Buffalo is miles ahead of the Cowboys on talent, but because just as many folks bet on Dallas as they did withthe Bills, their odds to win are the same.

Different casinos have different odds depending on who bet on whom. That's why when you see a place like the USA Today post odds , and they show a half dozen different lines from different casinos, they might vary. The wise bettor shops around before placing bets." - fat tony


these are the odds based on a 100$ bet.. therefore, you bet 100 on buffalo, and they win the superbowl, you win 3500$. or you can throw away 100$ on the fins and get back nothing :D...

these odds are from intertops.com.. it is the online book i have used for years.

Bet Selections Win Odds
Philadelphia Eagles +500
Tampa Bay Buccaneers +500
Oakland Raiders +700
St Louis Rams +700
Pittsburgh Steelers +800
Miami Dolphins +1200
Atlanta Falcons +1200
New York Jets +1300
Green Bay Packers +1400
Denver Broncos +1400
San Francisco 49ers +1500
Tennessee Titans +1500
Indianapolis Colts +1500
New York Giants +1600
New England Patriots +1800
Kansas City Chiefs +2000
New Orleans Saints +2500
Minnesota Vikings +2500
Cleveland Browns +3000
Washington Redskins +3000
San Diego Chargers +3000
Dallas Cowboys +3500
Buffalo Bills +3500
Baltimore Ravens +4000
Chicago Bears +4500
Seattle Seahawks +5000
Carolina Panthers +6600
Jacksonville Jaguars +7500
Detroit Lions +12500
Arizona Cardinals +15000
Cincinnati Bengals +17500
Houston Texans +25000
 
Originally posted by XoPhinsoX
How often is Vegas right? ;)

vegas is right because someone is always losing.. they dont care who wins.. they only pay out on one team.. and collect on all the others..

dont kid yourself.. the odds are just a show of popularity.. the better question is.. how often does a bettor beat the house, which is what you would be betting on miami.. not often.. that is why the lights in vegas are so bright and pretty.. the house always wins.
 
Originally posted by FinsGoToGuy
Great explanation Tatonka

well thank you :D

i was a bookie in college.. it was the easiest money i ever made.. you really cant lose if you have at least 5-10 guys betting.. as 75% of them will lose money over the coarse of the weekend.. which will cover the money that you pay to the 25% that win. and that 25% that win one week are typically the ones that lose the very next week and give your money right back to you and then some.

there were several times that everyone lost over the coarse of the weekend, and there was never a time when everyone won.. once in a blue moon you get more winners than losers, but over the long haul, the coarse of the season, EVERYONE loses..

shame i got married and grew up.. i cant put my wife and current life in jeopardy for something like that now.. i have more to think about than just myself, but i can tell you i miss it. college kids pretty much furnished my home.
 
thanks for explaining how the vegas system works, so its really not a good thing miami is rated so high to go to the SB.
 
i am not saying that it is a bad thing that miami is rated as high as they are.. i am just saying all that shows is what the publics opinion is at this point.. like i stated, alot of people dont know what moves the less "high profile" teams have made to improve themselves.. so they would look at last season, or just an overall opinion.. but either way, it doesnt make a lot of difference.. i promise you by the time these teams all rip off a couple preseason games, the odds will change.. in some cases drastically..

watch.. if washington continues to play their starters through an entire preseason game and go 4-0 in the preseason, people will hop on that bandwagon, start putting money on them, and thus the odds will get worse.. making it appear that they have a better or more legit shot at winning the superbowl, when in actuality they dont..

look at philly for example.. they were ravished this year by FA.. and there is no way that you can tell me with the replacements they picked up to fill the voids of barber, douglas, kirkland, ect... that they are going to be quite as good, but they are heavy favorites, none the less.. because the public may not be wise to this yet.

bottom line is.. it just shows what bandwagon the bettors are on at this point.. and vegas will make millions on all the teams but the one lucky one that wins it all.

if it makes you feel any better.. tampa bay was just about the same odds as miami is this year..

and st louis was the "favored" team to win it all.
 
by the way.. my personal bets will be on

atlanta, baltimore, buffalo, cincy, and maybe N.O this year.
 
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