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NFL contracts obviously affect individual players and their teams but they are not done in a vacuum. Each contract also can affect other players around the league, which is the reason the deal Cameron Jordan is getting from the New Orleans Saints today is important.

That deal -- reported by Mike Garafolo of FOXSports1 as a five-year, $55 million deal with $38 million in "guaranteed" money and $27 million over the first two years -- is causing a lot of players to enjoy their days today.
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And Miami Dolphins defensive end Olivier Vernon is going to do that as well.

Indeed, I have it on good authority the Jordan deal, which comes in at about $12 million annually (APY) when you include incentives, is what Vernon will use as the floor for his coming negotiations with the Dolphins.

The floor!

Houston is dancing. Jones is dancing. Kerrigan is dancing. And OV is surely dancing.

Vernon, 24, and Jordan, 25, play different positions. Vernon is a 4-3 defensive end. Jordan is a 3-4 defensive end.
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Vernon can easily look at himself as a $12 million per year player after this season because the only way the Dolphins can keep him after this season is to sign him to a multi-year deal that pays him market dollars now established by Jordan ... or use a $15 million or so franchise tag on him.

(Because Vernon was not a first-round draft pick there is no one-year option the team can apply to him. In that regard, Jordan had less leverage in his negotiations than Vernon will have).

And if the Dolphins apply the franchise tag on Vernon in 2016, the only way they keep him in 2017 without signing him to a deal that by then probably averages $15 million APY is by franchising him again. And that second franchise tag would be 120 percent higher than the first or about $17.7 million for one year.

So the choices really are to get a multi-year deal that pays around $12 million annually ... or franchise him the next two years for $32.7 million ... or lose Vernon in free agency -- at age 25 next offseason or at 26 in 2017.

Obviously all this is contingent on Vernon performing this year. But he is going to bet on himself that he can easily match the 7 1/2 sacks Jordan had in his fourth year. With Ndamukong Suh joining the defensive line and Cameron Wake playing on the other side, it is pretty clear Vernon isn't likely to get a ton of double-teams.
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Oh hell no. What has he possibly done to think he deserves that kind of cash?!
 
cameron jordans a much more consistent better player...vernons gonna get nothing but one on ones again in 2015 he did nothing with them last year he better make finishing plays this year...right now i say let vernon walk after this year...especially if it's $10 mil or more per
 
If OV plays well again this season he will get paid but i was thinking more like 8 - 9 mil a year average with a nice signing bonus. For prospective Wake signed for $33 over 4 seasons (8.25 avg)
 
next years draft is going to be a whole lot of defense... DE, LB, CB... hope they fit guard in there somewhere.
 
foozool13 said:
$12 Million a year is too much. I think he should be more in the Jerry Hughes contract area at $45M for 5 years (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/jerry-hughes/) We cant really afford to lose him though and the market dictates price.

Might have to lose Wake to keep him though. :(
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As much as we love Wake, you have to make the best long term decision. On Vernon, that seems like game changer type money and I'm not sure OV is that special type talent.
 
greasyObnoxious said:
reminds me of the Ray Edwards situation a few years back. solid player, but benefitting from his fellow DLmen
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hey now that's interesting...although i do think vernon has better functional strength and hand strength and ability to drop his hips than edwards had...might come down to how wake looks and miami feeling they have no choice at some point if wake falls off the table...but $12 mil per screw that...he's not that level
 
Definitely not out the realm of possibility at this point . . . but Vernon was a ghost in the 2nd half of the 2014 season.

Vernon is not an elite pass rusher, his strength has always been against the run . . . so he'll need to turn the addition of Suh and added attention on Wake into a big payday.

Good for him if he makes it happen. Salary cap going up, that means salaries go up as well. If he rates out as a top tier run defender from the DE spot and can nab around 10 sacks, being only 25 . . . he'll get the money.
 
hooshoops said:
hey now that's interesting...although i do think vernon has better functional strength and hand strength and ability to drop his hips than edwards had...might come down to how wake looks and miami feeling they have no choice at some point if wake falls off the table...but $12 mil per screw that...he's not that level
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yeah, and edwards was a bit more consistent in his pass rush, albeit mostly bull rush. but the situation is comparable IMO.

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Kdawg954 said:
Definitely not out the realm of possibility at this point . . . but Vernon was a ghost in the 2nd half of the 2014 season.

Vernon is not an elite pass rusher, his strength has always been against the run . . . so he'll need to turn the addition of Suh and added attention on Wake into a big payday.

Good for him if he makes it happen. Salary cap going up, that means salaries go up as well. If he rates out as a top tier run defender from the DE spot and can nab around 10 sacks, being only 25 . . . he'll get the money.
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he wouldn't be getting 10 sacks being "the guy" here. he would be paid like it though. no thanks.
 
greasyObnoxious said:
yeah, and edwards was a bit more consistent in his pass rush, albeit mostly bull rush. but the situation is comparable IMO.

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he wouldn't be getting 10 sacks being "the guy" here. he would be paid like it though. no thanks.
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Didn't say we'd be the ones that paid him . . . although with the Wake contract potentially getting sliced, there is money there for him.

I don't see "elite" with OV, I see solid . . . 12 million a year screams elite.

It's all good, Dion's only gone for a year, we are in good hands :lol:
 
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