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Was it a mistake not going for 2?

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Was rewatching the game. When Miami scored to make it 30-23 they kicked the XP to make it 30-24. A 6 point game and risking a KC FG to potentially make it a 9pt two possession game.

So why not go for two? You get it and it’s 30-25. A KC FG makes it a one possession 8pt game. You don’t get it and it’s 30-23 and a KC FG still makes it a two possession game.

So your in the same boat kicking an XP or missing the two point attempt if KC gets three, a two possession game with very little time.

But get that 2pts and Tuas last drive would be for the win and not a FG while still needing the onside kick.

So oversight? Or am I overthinking this one? Was it just a case of expecting our D to get the ball back and drive for the win instead of the tie?

To be fair it never occurred to me at the time. It was an odd scoring scenario because of the rare safety so I get why it didn’t happen. Though I wonder if it was considered.
 
Was rewatching the game. When Miami scored to make it 30-23 they kicked the XP to make it 30-24. A 6 point game and risking a KC FG to potentially make it a 9pt two possession game.

So why not go for two? You get it and it’s 30-25. A KC FG makes it a one possession 8pt game. You don’t get it and it’s 30-23 and a KC FG still makes it a two possession game.

So your in the same boat kicking an XP or missing the two point attempt, a two possession game with very little time.

But get that 2pts and Tuas last drive would be for the win and not a FG while still needing the onside kick.

So oversight? Or am I overthinking this one? To be fair it never occurred to me at the time. It was an odd scoring scenario because of the rare safety so I get why it didn’t happen. Though I wonder if it was considered.
if we stopped them on the 4th down play we are looking at winning the game with a td
 
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Was rewatching the game. When Miami scored to make it 30-23 they kicked the XP to make it 30-24. A 6 point game and risking a KC FG to potentially make it a 9pt two possession game.

So why not go for two? You get it and it’s 30-25. A KC FG makes it a one possession 8pt game. You don’t get it and it’s 30-23 and a KC FG still makes it a two possession game.

So your in the same boat kicking an XP or missing the two point attempt of KC gets three, a two possession game with very little time.

But get that 2pts and Tuas last drive would be for the win and not a FG while still needing the onside kick.

So oversight? Or am I overthinking this one? Was it just a case of expecting our D to get the ball back and drive for the win instead of the tie?

To be fair it never occurred to me at the time. It was an odd scoring scenario because of the rare safety so I get why it didn’t happen. Though I wonder if it was considered.

You don’t go for two, because you’re expecting a stop. If you stop them, and score, you just need an extra point to win. If you don’t get the two, than the extra point would be just to tie.
 
 
Valid points. There was 4:15 left when Miami scored. I guess it’s a matter of where you place your trust. I felt the O would’ve gotten the two and I felt they would’ve won if they got the ball back one more time. I guess for me it was a tall order to keep Mahomes out of FG range on his last drive with 4 minutes left. I trusted the D could prevent the 7, but not so much the FG. But damn did they come close on the 4th and 1. Just wish we could’ve saw Tua drive with the game on the line or to tie. Anyways, not the best thought out question on my part. Thanks for responses. 👍
 
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You don’t go for two, because you’re expecting a stop. If you stop them, and score, you just need an extra point to win. If you don’t get the two, than the extra point would be just to tie.
There in lies the problem. You're expecting a stop, you have a defensive minded H.C, and your defense is too poorly coached to challenge the WR's at the line of scrimmage so you essentially gift wrap the game for the opponent on the final drive. These coaching errors don't happen in Buffalo or NE. Show me the 3rd and 20 BB or McDermott gave up because he has the DB's playing 15 yds back like the Pitt game last year and call cover 0, does not happen. Hard to win the division or even go to the playoffs when you have the 3rd best coaching staff in a division of 4. This coaching staff needs to improve with situational football and I believe they will with time, but right now the whole staff is overrated.


3:34 left in 4th quarter AND 3:22 left in the 4th (Mahomes checked into this play because the DB's were off AGAIN), disgusting...

 
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There in lies the problem. You're expecting a stop, you have a defensive minded H.C, and your defense is too poorly coached to challenge the WR's at the line of scrimmage so you essentially gift wrap the game for the opponent on the final drive. These coaching errors don't happen in Buffalo or NE. Show me the 3rd and 20 BB or McDermott gave up because he has the DB's playing 15 yds back like the Pitt game last year and call cover 0, does not happen. Hard to win the division or even go to the playoffs when you have the 3rd best coaching staff in a division of 4. This coaching staff needs to improve with situational football and I believe they will with time, but right now the whole staff is overrated.
They aren't that far off on the 4th down conversion. Go to 12:56. I assume that's what you'r referring to.
 
They aren't that far off on the 4th down conversion. Go to 12:56. I assume that's what you'r referring to.

F*** the 4th down, at the 3:22 mark on 2nd and 10 for the second time the same drive (first one being even MORE egregious) even Jim Nantz says on video "THEY ARE SO FAR OFF THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE". It's not rocket science, challenge the f****** receivers at the LOS on the most important defensive play calls in the game, and don't EVER do what you did last year in Pittsburgh again.
 
I agree we had to play them tight in those big spots. Hindsight of course but I said it during the time I wish we went for it on that fourth down where we missed the field-goal. It was early in the game but I thought we needed to put our foot on their throat’s early and often.

That being said, superb coaching job as we were down multiple starters and it really came down to the last drive.I have never been so happy on a loss.
 
Loved how our team played this week and feel like the coaching was solid. You have to kick the XP in that situation to get within 6. The one coaching issue that I noticed was how we were playing their WRs at the LOS on that last drive. Early on in the drive we were playing 15 yds off their WRs at the LOS. This lead to short quick screens with plenty of room for the WR to pick up 8-12 yds with ease. I personally think you let the DBs win or lose and press them off the LOS and hope you can get home with the DL. What day you?
 
No it wasn't a mistake. The mistake was playing soft coverage on the game clinching drive. I still have no idea why the secondary was playing 15 yards off the LOS.
 
Y’all swear you want to challenge the receivers at the line, until those speedy wideouts cook you over and over for long TDs. You can’t have it both ways. You either give cushion and stop the run/blitz or you press with extra guys back.
 
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Y’all swear you want to challenge the receivers at the line, until those sprays wideouts cook you over and over for long TDs. You can’t have it both ways. You either give cushion and stop the run/blitz or you press with extra guys back.
If McCain was out of the game I'd tend to agree with you. We had everyone back there. It was a stupid formation and it cost us a chance to win the game IMO.
The two completions were the easiest two completions of the game for Mahomes. It was a disaster.
 
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