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We need SOMEBODY else on kickoff returns!!

Kdawg954

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I like Wes, he is a fighter, a great slot receiver and a solid punt returner. But when are we gonna realize that he is just TOO slow to be returning kickoffs. I have preached this since preseason and the consensus of the Welker lovers are that he does no wrong. I'm sorry, but everytime he caught the ball at the Goaline or a little in front, he struggled to get to the twenty . . .there is no threat back there man, and with this team u can't constantly be going 75 to 80 yards down the field, and on every kickoff thats what we were presented with . . . just awful.

This is not to bash Wes at all, I know the team has alot more problems than this, so please don't come here with "Wes is the MVP and our best player", I think its pretty obvious we need some kind of speed back there returning kicks, to give us better field position. Wes is getting killed with his workload, tho effective at almost everything he does, kickoff returns is just not for him, we need a burner back there, someone who can get us to the 40+ yardline 2 or 3 times in the game.
 
Yep, this is it. This will fix all that ills this team. Sorry I didn't even read your post. There are far far far bigger problems than who's returning kicks.
 
Its not just Wes that lacks speed....the whole team lacks it.
 
I posted the same thing last week and got bashed....most fans seem unable to make a distinction between Wes Welker PR/3rd WR and Wes Welker KR.
 
SCall13 said:
Yep, this is it. This will fix all that ills this team. Sorry I didn't even read your post. There are far far far bigger problems than who's returning kicks.

So we only fix the "big" problems?? Welker returning kicks is obviously not THE reason we are losing, but it's one of about 100.
 
vinivedivichi said:
I posted the same thing last week and got bashed....most fans seem unable to make a distinction between Wes Welker PR/3rd WR and Wes Welker KR.

No most people realize that it doesn't matter how fast the guy is that is returning the kicks if the people up front arn't blocking. Look at Hall from KC probably the best KR in the league and he has not done crap lately.

Not to mention the last thing we need to be worried about right now is the freaking KR.
 
phinz8202 said:
Its not just Wes that lacks speed....the whole team that lacks it.

Yup. they addressed that on t.v. We have absolutely nobody that is a pure speed guy. We could really use someone like this.
 
Shamboubou said:
No most people realize that it doesn't matter how fast the guy is that is returning the kicks if the people up front arn't blocking. Look at Hall from KC probably the best KR in the league and he has not done crap lately.

Not to mention the last thing we need to be worried about right now is the freaking KR.

Wow already 2 Wes fans comming with "we don't need to worry about KR's right now". I can't really judge the blocking, but I know for a fact a KR with speed can get to the 20 yard line with ease, and if our blocking is so poor, why have a slow returner back there anyways, yes the team has problems but this is something that should be addressed for field position. It seems like we can move the ball for 30 yards or so and punt. If we start around the 35, that means we can get to the 35 of the other team, but starting at the 20 means we get to midfield . . . that is a big difference. All I'm saying is, Wes isn't the answer at KR right now, whether it be because of blocking or just a speed issue.

Yes we have alot to worry about with this team, and this is one area of concern, whether Wes lovers like it or not.
 
SCall13 said:
Yep, this is it. This will fix all that ills this team. Sorry I didn't even read your post. There are far far far bigger problems than who's returning kicks.

Guess u should of read my post, because its obvious that NOT any one move will fix the team, but a combo of them will . . .and this is one way to possibly improve field position.
 
Although your point is valid i think most fans are more concerned about our inabilty to score points and stop teams scoring at the moment. When our supposedly "playmaker" players are causing turnovers and not showing up we are in trouble no matter who is returning kicks.
 
Kdawg954 said:
Guess u should of read my post, because its obvious that NOT any one move will fix the team, but a combo of them will . . .and this is one way to possibly improve field position.


Wes should maybe stick to PR and 3rd WR. Who have we got with speed who is consistent at catching kickoffs? Vick? Is he fast?
 
Kdawg954 said:
Wow already 2 Wes fans comming with "we don't need to worry about KR's right now". I can't really judge the blocking, but I know for a fact a KR with speed can get to the 20 yard line with ease, and if our blocking is so poor, why have a slow returner back there anyways, yes the team has problems but this is something that should be addressed for field position. It seems like we can move the ball for 30 yards or so and punt. If we start around the 35, that means we can get to the 35 of the other team, but starting at the 20 means we get to midfield . . . that is a big difference. All I'm saying is, Wes isn't the answer at KR right now, whether it be because of blocking or just a speed issue.

Yes we have alot to worry about with this team, and this is one area of concern, whether Wes lovers like it or not.

Make a lot of since, I mean he's one in the top of the league with KR and PR yards. Dude I dont care how fast the guy is, Tim Dwight is probably one of the fastest guys in the NFL but he wasn't worth a crap as a KR or PR. Welker fights for yards and usually gets about 5 more yards that what he should on most plays. He's generally the only WR open on the field and I really have a hard time he is accomplishing all of this while "not being fast".

There isn't a player that is going to CONSISTANTLY get to the 35 yard line when he is being hit at the 15. Your not going to find that anywhere, thats an unrealistic expectation.
 
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if you idiots can do better than why dont you go out there and try
 
Welker sucks at Kick Returning. In Madden, everytime I get the kickoff I get 5-10 yards even with hitting the turbo with Wes. So, I play it smart and put Cliff Russell or Chris Chambers and get 40 yards because they have Speed. Bench Wes at KR
 
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