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Week 13 AFC Playoff Picture: Dolphins 10th Seed in Playoff Hunt

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Week 12 wasn't kind to the Dolphins' playoff positioning.. With a loss and wins by other AFC playoff contenders, the Dolphins dropped out of the 6th seed and into the 10th position.

http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture

If the season ended today:

AFC
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1 Seed: Patriots
2 Seed: Broncos
3 Seed: Bengals
4 Seed: Colts
5 Seed: Chiefs
6 Seed: Chargers (Previously #8)

In the Hunt:
7 Seed: Ravens (Previously #9)
8 Seed: Steelers (Previously #7)
9 Seed: Browns (Previously #10)
10 Seed: Dolphins (Previously #6)


NOTES:
* Dolphins will lose a head to head tiebreaker to the Chiefs and Broncos (at this point)
* Dolphins yet to play games vs 2 potential AFC playoff teams: Ravens and Patriots
* The path to the playoffs seems clear: 10 wins (with victories over the Jets (twice), Ravens and Vikings); although even 10 wins may not be enough at this point

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Last Week's Playoff Picture: http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...-Dolphins-7th-Seed-in-Playoff-Hunt&highlight=
 
I would argue that IF the Dolphins were to lose one game, we'd want that loss to be vs. the Vikings as it's a non-conference game. Regardless, I cannot see a way we don't get in at 10-6. All the teams in our way play eachother. Ravens have the easiest schedule though, watch out for them. Chargers though, have an insanely tough schedule.
 
No ones fault but the Dolphins. They didn't handle their affairs against the Lions, Packers nor Broncos. Does anyone really trust this team not to drop one against the Jets? We're getting really close but we're not that team yet!

Side note I don't know what the hell is going on with the Defense...
 
ANUFan said:
No ones fault but the Dolphins. They didn't handle their affairs against the Lions, Packers nor Broncos. Does anyone really trust this team not to drop one against the Jets? We're getting really close but we're not that team yet!

Side note I don't know what the hell is going on with the Defense...
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Peyton Manning ...Aaron Rodgers ...Lions offense. That said, we also shut down Brady early on and shut out Phillip Rivers for the first time ever in his career. It's been a helluva schedule for our D.

I have full trust we'll shellac the New Jersey reJEcTs on MNF. I'm looking forward to the beat down.
 
ANUFan said:
No ones fault but the Dolphins. They didn't handle their affairs against the Lions, Packers nor Broncos. Does anyone really trust this team not to drop one against the Jets? We're getting really close but we're not that team yet!

Side note I don't know what the hell is going on with the Defense...
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As for the defense, Coyle's end of game schemes and playcalling is the problem... he needs to go. A dominating rushing attack would have won the games against Green Bay, Detroit, and Denver by running out the clock while leading. However, this is not part of Philbin's offensive philosophy, which is why Philbin must go. When you're behind with little time left, a quick strike to Wallace could win the game. But, Tannehill and Wallace can't do it, and apparently Lazor can't fix it. I would work on it until they get it right, but Lazor pretty much stopped going deep. Miami's longest TD pass this year was 21 yards; they do not have the ability to score from outside the red zone unless they get lucky with a long run.

Without a quick-strike ability and with Coyle's habit of allowing his defense to go soft late in the game, Miami needs that grinding, dominating, time-consuming running game, but as long as Philbin is in charge it will never happen. Miami will not be a playoff team with this coaching staff. While it appears that Tannehill's stats are rising, it is ONLY because Philbin/Lazor have mostly abandoned both the running game and the deep ball in favor of all short passes, thereby artificially inflating Tannehill's stats.
 
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Can someone who is familiar with the playoff simulation sites provide an update for the chances of the Dolphins earning a wildcard at 10-6? Or do these sites merely provide overall odds?

I won't be too upset if the Dolphins miss the playoffs at 10-6. If we emerge from this season with all doubt removed regarding Tannehill's status as a franchise QB, then the season will have been successful. We all knew that with his limited collegiate experience at QB that it would take a while to observe how high his ceiling would be.

Also, if they miss the playoffs perhaps the organization will make changes to the defense similar to the changes made to improve the offense last year.

In a way, I hope that it takes 11 wins for the Dolphins to make the playoffs. That would require a 5 game winning streak, and similar to the 2001 Patriots who ended on a 6 game winning streak, the Dolphins could do serious damage in the playoffs as opposed to being content to have simply made it.
 
gofins60 said:
As for the defense, Coyle's end of game schemes and playcalling is the problem... he needs to go. A dominating rushing attack would have won the games against Green Bay, Detroit, and Denver by running out the clock while leading. However, this is not part of Philbin's offensive philosophy, which is why Philbin must go. When you're behind with little time left, a quick strike to Wallace could win the game. But, Tannehill and Wallace can't do it, and apparently Lazor can't fix it. I would work on it until they get it right, but Lazor pretty much stopped going deep. Miami's longest TD pass this year was 21 yards; they do not have the ability to score from outside the red zone unless they get lucky with a long run. Miami will never be a playoff team with this coaching staff.
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I don't think it is fair to say that Philbin doesn't want to win games by running the football. If you recall, Philbin was criticized for NOT throwing the ball against the Packers on their last offensive possession.

I would argue that Knowshon Moreno was brought in specifically for the purpose of closing out games by rushing. With the injuries to Moreno and Albert the Dolphins simply now lack the personnel to close out such games by rushing.

It's just amazing how many people take gratuitous shots at Philbin. I think Philbin knows what philosophy is required to win football games. But sometimes injuries derail those plans.

I do agree with you that Coyle's schemes are a problem that need changes in the offseason. These changes are much more critical and Philbin needs to determine whether the problem is one of scheme or insufficient talent.
 
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nyashfan said:
Can someone who is familiar with the playoff simulation sites provide an update for the chances of the Dolphins earning a wildcard at 10-6? Or do these sites merely provide overall odds?

I won't be too upset if the Dolphins miss the playoffs at 10-6. If we emerge from this season with all doubt removed regarding Tannehill's status as a franchise QB, then the season will have been successful. We all knew that with his limited collegiate experience at QB that it would take a while to observe how high his ceiling would be.

Also, if they miss the playoffs perhaps the organization will make changes to the defense similar to the changes made to improve the offense last year.

In a way, I hope that it takes 11 wins for the Dolphins to make the playoffs. That would require a 5 game winning streak, and similar to the 2001 Patriots who ended on a 6 game winning streak, the Dolphins could do serious damage in the playoffs as opposed to being content to have simply made it.
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I want to say if Miami is 10-6 and their 1 loss does NOT come to the ravens, the dolphins are 99% in, maybe even 100%. If they are 10-6, and that 1 loss is to the ravens, and the ravens are also 10-6, Miami is 100% out.
 
truedolfan57 said:
I want to say if Miami is 10-6 and their 1 loss does NOT come to the ravens, the dolphins are 99% in, maybe even 100%. If they are 10-6, and that 1 loss is to the ravens, and the ravens are also 10-6, Miami is 100% out.
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That's only if 2 teams don't finish 11-5...
 
shanem40 said:
So who do we root for today???
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I would say browns, GB and chargers, for starters.

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SkapePhin said:
That's only if 2 teams don't finish 11-5...
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yes, that's all based on the wildcards not finishing better than 11-5.

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a win from the bucs and saints wont hurt either. lol
 
truedolfan57 said:
I want to say if Miami is 10-6 and their 1 loss does NOT come to the ravens, the dolphins are 99% in, maybe even 100%. If they are 10-6, and that 1 loss is to the ravens, and the ravens are also 10-6, Miami is 100% out.
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No need to worry. The Ravens will be 11-5 even if they lose next week to the Dolphins. Take a look at their remaining schedule - it's a joke.
 
A few days ago, I thought it'd be better if SD wins today. I wish to recant. If B'more & the phins win then the Chargers & Phins have the same record for the time being.

Worry about the head to head w/ the Ravens in a few days.

Plus, if Baltimore wins it puts pressure on the evil empire who are playing the Saints today.
 
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