I sure am hopeful that Rosen will eliminate the Tanking mind set. I very much want for him to play to the caliber of a franchise quarterback. We should ALL desire this.
Not! If they have the #1 pick next year I bet they draft a QB they think can be better than Rosen. It could be Tua, Fromm, or Hebert.
His stats were no more "vomit inducing" than were Josh Allen's and Sam Darnold's And better than Lamar Jackson'sThe acquistion of Rosen gives hope to most of the fan base. Thats good. But when you really think about it, does it really alter 2019 much? I think Fitzpatrick would potentially win more games in 2019 than Rosen. We didnt get a second round pick in 2019 (McCoy is who I wanted). He actually went at out pick. So we dont get that starter from the second round that would have helped in 2019. I like some of the "value" we got in the trade but its still a bunch of meh to me. I will be interested in watching Rosen more than Fitzpatrick so thats good.
The Kid (Rosen) just has never been a winner and I dont see that changing much this year. At UCLA, the team was 18-20 when he was the QB. 8-5 his freshman year (Team was Ranked 13th in Preseason). 4-8 his Sophomore year (played only 6 games. team was ranked 16th in preseason). 6-7 his Junior year. In the NFL, 3-13 with the cardinals. Now I understand team records don't mean a whole lot towards individual accomplishments but its a little uninspiring when you see that Rosen hasnt been on a winning football team since 2015. Also, his stats at UCLA werent top ten worthy either. We know his first year stats in the NFL were vomit inducing.
But why? Unless it's without a shadow of a doubt a massive upgrade why waste that draft capital? Think about it like this. If Rosen was coming out in next year's draft you would be saying "Tua, Fromm, Herbet, & Rosen". He'd be in the same conversation easily, but instead we get a year with a kid we got for a late second and that AZ paid $11mil of his salary. Why go and draft a kid who has no NFL experience, more expensive, and an unknown vs a kid who has 2 years in the league, cheaper, and known by staff?
Rosen is mechanically as sound as it gets, young, smart, and now finally with a good coach. If Caldwell spends time with him and sees his potential I'm sure we can get it out of him. It'll probably require a massive series of screw ups from Rosen to not have a solid outing under Caldwell.
So yeah, as long as Rosen isn't playing drunk I think he's around for a couple years at least. If the Fins get the #1 pick I'd say they'll trade down to put a supporting cast around him. Probably pick up a 2021 1st out if it too which could be useful for Lawrence if after 2 years the FO sours on Rosen. Even then in this scenario, Lawrence would enter a team that now has a lot of building blocks in place .
You could have the #2 pick . . . It would take at least 3 first rounders to get the top prospect . . . .and even then if he is “that dude”, the #1 overall team would probably still take him.
All we did is add a tremendous talent to the league’s least talented QB group.
Lets see how it plays out.