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We're In Trouble...

perezferia

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First of all, let me first say that I LOVE the PHINS! I just love them and have done so since I was 6 years old! I'm not jumping off any bandwagon or any other ridiculous cliche that means that I'm going to root for another team or against my own team. Got that? Good.

However...

This team is in trouble. Pre-Season games don't tell you anything about the coaches ability to game plan because they don't do it. They DO tell you about your talent levels, however. And here's the facts:

1) Our #1's are no where near as talented as we think. Our offensive line provided slightly better pass protection but still can't run block a lick. That's talent on talent. Oh sure, we'll get SOME yardage on clever plays the coaches gameplan, but straight up talent on talent, we're pathetic. We may be the least talented team in the NFL. We definitely are the least talented Offensive Line and Secondary in the NFL. The #1 Defensive line ONLY got pressure off of 3-4 blitzes. Where was Jason Taylor on the 4-3's? Without pressure we're going nowhere.

2) We have the worst 2nd - 3rd teamers in the NFL. Our safeties, Tillman, Schulters, Bell, Bua... none of them can play a lick. We're going to be ranked 32 in pass defense this year. We have no quality depth anywhere.

3) What I've seen is that we have 2 QB's that both suck. One telegraphs his throws because he's so lost in the offense and the other knows the offense but doesn't have the ball skills to deliver the passes on time and on target.

Conclusion?

My offseason optimism is gone and I find myself agreeing with the pundits for the first time ever! We're gonna be bad and it's not going to be pretty. With the schedule that we face and the learning curve the players are facing and the age of the few decent players we have and the propensity for those guys to get hurt during the season and our terribl depth, 4-12 might be a lofty goal for us.

I know, I know... Now you hate me. You're going to insult me, call me names, point out all of the bright spots in these games like TE Diamond, etc.. and remind me that it's only pre-season, yada, yada, yada...

But I've been watching pre-season football for 35 years my friends...

We're in trouble.

Ricky provides a spark, but he won't be there until week 6 and even then, will he be mentally there by then?

We've overated BOOKER because the man has no speed. In this offense a pure possesion reciever can't do well. We need to trade him while the deadline is still open and pick up a servicable CENTER to replace McKinney, who is a baboon. We've got 4-3 linebackers that can be dealt, like Eddie Moore and Bua and Pope that have talent and ability but no longer fit this team's scheme. We need to pick up draft picks for next year and undure one of the toughest seasons in Dolphin's history.

We'll find out a lot more in pre-season game #4, but until then I'll leave you with one thought, those of you convinced that we're going to go 8-8 or 10-6 this year, on pure talent which Dolphins scare opposing teams?

Jason Taylor, Ricky Williams, Chris Chambers (Maybe).

THAT'S IT. If you scheme offensive and defensive plays designed to neutralize THOSE 3 guys, this team becomes a sorrry collection of rookies, castoffs, wannabe's and neverwere's.

There's no talnet here, yet. There will be, but not yet.

FEELEY, FREROTTE, ROSENFELD, GORDON, SCHULTERS, HOWARD, LEE, GILMORE, WELKER, TILLMAN, and on and on... These VETS wouldn't start on ANY NFL team this year or any other year. Yeah, we have a few promising rookies, but potential gets coaches fired. We don't REALLY know how ROTH, CROWDER and DANIELS will do in a real game yet, how they'll handle adversity.

This is a young team running headlong into the brick wall known as lack of NFL caliber talent. Saban has brought together a hell of a college team with these Dolphins, but we're in real trouble here in the NFL.

How many clear misses and terrible throws from both QB's will it take before I get some support for what I'm saying? And WHY am I saying it? Cuz I believe a lot of you fans, like me, suffer terribly during the season. I suffer emotionally like you wouldn't believe. But if my expectations are down and realistic, I watch the games like a passionate observer and not in life or death mode as I usually do. This is about mental stability and well being.

Say it with me, We're Not Going To Be Good and Chances Are We're Going To Be QUITE Bad. For awhile, anyway...

I love my Dolphins and pray for the day that come back strong and focused.

Thank you guys.

GO PHINS!!!!!!
 
By the way, I know BUA is a safety NOW, but he's REALLY a 4-3 linebacker, y'know?
 
I do not think there is enough evidence to decide whether we will be a GOOD team or a BAD team this year. It is only the 2nd pre-season game of 5. It is way too early to make such broad decisions about this or any team in the NFL.

Sorry it's just the pre-season ppl.
 
Say it with me, We're Not Going To Be Good and Chances Are We're Going To Be QUITE Bad. For awhile, anyway...

quitter. Two scrimmages into the season and you are giving up. pffft!
 
Nah dude, I dont hate you. They will. Its good to be full of optimism, but it just aint going to happen this year. I just want us to win 6 games, so we cant even come close to drafting Matt "Turd" Leinart, but my fear is, we will be lucky to win 3. Which, will put us in prime position to grab that POS.

You are correct, as far as I am concerned, with all your analysis. I have been saying it since the draft and FA.

You shouldnt have to make all kinds of disclaimers to voice your pessimism. You want the best, as I do too. But, the hype eaters like to ridicul and mock ya. But, notice they never come around when what is said by the pessimists, turns out to be true. Which is typical, only a few will be on this board come Novemeber and December. They are fairwether's.
 
ohall said:
I do not think there is enough evidence to decide whether we will be a GOOD team or a BAD team this year. It is only the 2nd pre-season game of 5. It is way too early to make such broad decisions about this or any team in the NFL.

Sorry it's just the pre-season ppl.

I knew you'd say that, I even mentioned it in the post. YES, we can tell on a talent to talent evaluation. We're bad.
 
LithoMan said:
Nah dude, I dont hate you. They will. Its good to be full of optimism, but it just aint going to happen this year. I just want us to win 6 games, so we cant even come close to drafting Matt "Turd" Leinart, but my fear is, we will be lucky to win 3. Which, will put us in prime position to grab that POS.

You are correct, as far as I am concerned, with all your analysis. I have been saying it since the draft and FA.

You shouldnt have to make all kinds of disclaimers to voice your pessimism. You want the best, as I do too. But, the hype eaters like to ridicul and mock ya. But, notice they never come around when what is said by the pessimists, turns out to be true. Which is typical, only a few will be on this board come Novemeber and December. They are fairwether's.

I feel ya Brother. I haven't quit on this team, not by a long shot, but I haven't gone blind either.
 
perezferia said:
GO PHINS!!!!!!

Don't ever say that again. You will NEVER get ANY support for saying that your own team is BAD. And dont give me this "realistic" BULL.
 
cnc66 said:
quitter. Two scrimmages into the season and you are giving up. pffft!
I haven't quit on this team, not by a long shot, but I haven't gone blind either.
 
perezferia said:
I knew you'd say that, I even mentioned it in the post. YES, we can tell on a talent to talent evaluation. We're bad.

lol no we can't, no one ca. The pre-season, the entire pre-season is there to help make those decisions. And if you think you can more power to you bro. You need to go get a job in the NFL. :D

Not trying to bash you, but these concrete opinions some of you are forming during the pre-season is absolutely silly!
 
I hope you feel better now that you got that off your chest. I almost didn't finish reading, becuase it was so darn long. Anyway, I'm not going to insult you, but will say that if you believe we're doomed that you don't know as much as you think. First of all Ronnie hasn't set foot on the field yet. Second, you gotta remember these guys haven't played together yet. Third, our QB's are going to be better, when you put it all together. When the lineman become more familiar and the running games there, the QB's will produce (definitely more then last year). And finally our coaching staff is still, replacing, changing, trying, trading, etc. Give them a chance to make it right. I won't agree we were horrible till the seasons over and we didn't improve. It is a rebuilding year and 8 & 8 is an upgrade. (And who knows maybe a wildcard). Have faith.

Not to mention. Last year I think we were 2 & 2 in the preseason, and look what happened. You can't go by the preseason. Again, have faith.
 
perezferia said:
I haven't quit on this team, not by a long shot, but I haven't gone blind either.

Hey good for you, but you are without doubt making premature decisions.
 
Dolphin1184 said:
Don't ever say that again. You will NEVER get ANY support for saying that your own team is BAD. And dont give me this "realistic" BULL.
Wake up Dorothy, we're not in Kansas anymore.

I LOVE MY DOLPHINS! But we're not very good right now. If you can't understand that those two thoughts can co-exist in the heart of a true fan then you're a child.

I WANT them to be great, but they're not even going to be average. And it hurts me deeply to say it, but it helps get me prepared for a tough season emotionally. Go ahead, live in denial. It's your right.

But we're in trouble.
 
ohall said:
lol no we can't, no one ca. The pre-season, the entire pre-season is there to help make those decisions. And if you think you can more power to you bro. You need to go get a job in the NFL. :D

Not trying to bash you, but these concrete opinions some of you are forming during the pre-season is absolutely silly!

Come find me OHALL after the bye week. Once you see I was right,

The name is perezferia and I LOVE the Dolphins.
 
perezferia said:
I feel ya Brother. I haven't quit on this team, not by a long shot, but I haven't gone blind either.

Me either, but most of these guys can only go by the hype machine, which is dipsheets like Sean "Steakhead" Salisbury, who is a moron, and the precious Madden.

Just to inform people again, Salisbury broke out the worlds smallest violin, for Wanstedt back at the end of the 03 season, but in the 04 pre-season, the dipsheet said Wanny needed fired. The guy is a hypocrit, and best as I have figured, hates the Phins.

The guys most of these fans on here listen too, hype stuff up, because if the NFL makes money, so do they. Never hear about whent hey are wrong, which is like 85% of the time. And when they arent, it statement like, Marvin Harrison will have 15 TD's, and 2500 yards. No kiddin, you have got to be joking. Tell me something I didnt know.

Keep a good eye on the team, we have alot of talent, they just arent playing in the right spots, or dont have the other part of the supporting cast.
 
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