Wes Welker's TD

[VManis]

I found a couple of things about this non-TD a little odd.

1. The referee never called it a TD. Even if he did step out before catching the ball the play should have been called a TD and then negated by the penalty.

2. CBS never showed a replay that showed him out of bounce. Its possible that they didn't have one but most crews have cameras on the end zone at all times. The announcers never really talked about it either.

3. Now maybe this call isn't reviewable (although i can't imagine why it wouldn't be) but if it is don't you think the boys upstairs should have taken a look at it since it was within 2 minutes and obviously a crictical call.

Maybe he really did step out of bounce and this alot to do about nothing but I thought it was poor officiating that could have altered the result of the game.

 

[NewEra8]

I found a couple of things about this non-TD a little odd.

1. The referee never called it a TD. Even if he did step out before catching the ball the play should have been called a TD and then negated by the penalty.

2. CBS never showed a replay that showed him out of bounce. Its possible that they didn't have one but most crews have cameras on the end zone at all times. The announcers never really talked about it either.

3. Now maybe this call isn't reviewable (although i can't imagine why it wouldn't be) but if it is don't you think the boys upstairs should have taken a look at it since it was within 2 minutes and obviously a crictical call.

Maybe he really did step out of bounce and this alot to do about nothing but I thought it was poor officiating that could have altered the result of the game.

news flash: phins win.... be happy

 

[DolfanCole]

I found a couple of things about this non-TD a little odd.

1. The referee never called it a TD. Even if he did step out before catching the ball the play should have been called a TD and then negated by the penalty.

2. CBS never showed a replay that showed him out of bounce. Its possible that they didn't have one but most crews have cameras on the end zone at all times. The announcers never really talked about it either.

3. Now maybe this call isn't reviewable (although i can't imagine why it wouldn't be) but if it is don't you think the boys upstairs should have taken a look at it since it was within 2 minutes and obviously a crictical call.

Maybe he really did step out of bounce and this alot to do about nothing but I thought it was poor officiating that could have altered the result of the game.

You're right. The ref called the catch out of bounds. He was motioning that the catch (regardless of whether he went out and came back in ) was made out of bounds. As the replay showed, that was clearly not the case. But then he fell back on the fact that he "went out of bounds and came back in". I didn't even see the flag to be honest.

It's also curious why the play wasn't looked at, at least by replay on CBS. But, I'm wondering if things were just happening so fast at the time that CBS couldn't afford a replay of it.

 

[eric-in-tx]

i think its important.... hes on my fantasy team...

 

[msg]

I was curious about this too since they never showed a replay.

 

[Caldolfan]

Why do you have Welker on your fantasy team, he's the third guy on a poor team. I love the guy, but there has to be somebody out there better for Fantasy.

 

[BennyVW]

Why do you have Welker on your fantasy team, he's the third guy on a poor team. I love the guy, but there has to be somebody out there better for Fantasy.

You can get lucky if he breaks a return, or maybe he's in a large league...

 

[BuffBillsMan90]

Stepping out of bounds and being the 1st receiver to touch the ball is a penalty (the ref hat was off).....penalties cannot be reviewed.

From the other side of the coin....why didn't the Bills decline the penalty and make it 4th down?

 

[SuperDuperFan]

I was wondering the same things. They could have at least shown a replay of him stepping out. It was a great catch though. If we ended up losing this could have been pretty controverisal. Thank God we still pulled it out.

 

[DeDolfan]

I found a couple of things about this non-TD a little odd.

1. The referee never called it a TD. Even if he did step out before catching the ball the play should have been called a TD and then negated by the penalty.

2. CBS never showed a replay that showed him out of bounce. Its possible that they didn't have one but most crews have cameras on the end zone at all times. The announcers never really talked about it either.

3. Now maybe this call isn't reviewable (although i can't imagine why it wouldn't be) but if it is don't you think the boys upstairs should have taken a look at it since it was within 2 minutes and obviously a crictical call.

Maybe he really did step out of bounce and this alot to do about nothing but I thought it was poor officiating that could have altered the result of the game.

Replay was poor on that one. I TiVo'd it several times and the only thing I could actually see was a bit of white chalk or paint kicked up into the screen. Couldn't see the feet but Welker was on the endline with the DB inside so apparently if either of the 2 were OOB at al, it had to be Welker. This one I'd have to give to refs.

 

[BuffBillsMan90]

There was a divot in the white at the back of the endzone, but no way to tell if Welker did it.

 

[DolfanCole]

Stepping out of bounds and being the 1st receiver to touch the ball is a penalty (the ref hat was off).....penalties cannot be reviewed.

From the other side of the coin....why didn't the Bills decline the penalty and make it 4th down?

Yeah, I know that penalties can't be reviewed. But what is curious to me is why CBS didn't try to show another view or something to either back up or go against the call.

You bring up a very good point. Why didn't the Bills decline the penalty? It may be one where you don't have an option. Or, if the penalty is refused, then can the play be reviewed then to see if Welker really caught the ball in bounds? This may be a reason why the penalty can't be refused.

 

[DeDolfan]

You're right. The ref called the catch out of bounds. He was motioning that the catch (regardless of whether he went out and came back in ) was made out of bounds. As the replay showed, that was clearly not the case. But then he fell back on the fact that he "went out of bounds and came back in". I didn't even see the flag to be honest.

It's also curious why the play wasn't looked at, at least by replay on CBS. But, I'm wondering if things were just happening so fast at the time that CBS couldn't afford a replay of it.

The ref threw his hat on the ground signifying that he stepped out of bounds.
BTW, the replay itself was not very clear about anything.

 

[DolfanCole]

Another angle on this topic ... how 'bout the hops on Welker? He had to have some serious hops to get up and get that ball.

 

[DolfanCole]

The ref threw his hat on the ground signifying that he stepped out of bounds.
BTW, the replay itself was not very clear about anything.

I thought the replay was very clear about one thing -- Welker had both feet in bounds on the catch. It wasn't even close. He was well within the endline when he came down. I never saw anything about whether he went out of bounds first though.