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What Coach Would Have Won More Games With Dolphins This Year?

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I really fail to see how a new coach is the answer for more success. With all the injuries and personnel gaps I think it's pretty solid where we currently stand. I know the road blowouts are less than ideal and harder to mentally recover from but this isn't a very good football team.

We've improved in areas but others have forced guys to play out of position or run limited plays.

It's fair to criticize some decisions and think there are some things we could/should have done differently but ultimately I don't think that changes the season outcome by even +/- 1 game.

But real talk do you really believe there is a coach that's available that would have led the Dolphins to more wins this year?
 
Mike zimmer Sean Payton John Harbaugh Jim Harbaugh Anthony Lynn mike McCarthy Matt Nagy ...
 
Adam Gase may very well turn into a good HC...

I doubt if it's in Miami. He's been given too blank a check to change his failing ways (play calling, piss poor defense).

He needs to be unceremoniously fired and hopefully it will force some self-reflection on his part because right now he's the smartest guy in the room...and we're the dumb ones.
 
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Should have hired Dean Pees, big mistake by Gase there imo.

Tennessee 2nd in points allowed...
 
Dolfan Dave said:
I really fail to see how a new coach is the answer for more success. With all the injuries and personnel gaps I think it's pretty solid where we currently stand. I know the road blowouts are less than ideal and harder to mentally recover from but this isn't a very good football team.

We've improved in areas but others have forced guys to play out of position or run limited plays.

It's fair to criticize some decisions and think there are some things we could/should have done differently but ultimately I don't think that changes the season outcome by even +/- 1 game.

But real talk do you really believe there is a coach that's available that would have led the Dolphins to more wins this year?
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Andy Reid would make this offense a whole lot more exciting. They were still a decent team under Alex Smith who has none of the moxy or athleticism of Mahomes.

I would also venture to say Andy Reid would break the Davie 20 ppg average in his first year.
 
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Dan Campbell
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You people need to give it up. His tenure produced about 1 more ppg compared to Philbin. Over the past 7 years or so the only coach to average 21+ppg is Philbin, the year before he was fired. And Wallace's 10 TD season.
 
I still think Gase is a good coach and there’s still plenty of potential for him to get better.
That said, there are a few things he has done this year that I didn’t like, like the playcalls on 3rd and short, the lack of adjustments when the OL was being manhandled, getting too conservative in a few spots where he should have been more aggresive.
That doesn’t mean I want to get rid of him though, because in my opinion the positives outweigh the negatives. He is the first coach we’ve had in a long time who always finds a way to win close games. Remember all those heartbreaking losses during the Philbin and Sparano years? The ones that left you staring at the screen in disbelief thinking ,,how the hell do you lose that game?” Well, more often than not we’re on the other end of those games now, so let’s not take what we have for granted because it can get so, so much worse than this.
Another quality he has is that he gets the team to play hard. There have been a few exceptions to the rule, like Maxwell in his first year, Ajayi last year and Jones now. However, most good coaches do exactly what Gase does in this kind of situation, which is to get rid of players who whine, freelance or take plays off.
Finally, he knows how to design offensive plays that work. When Peyton Manning calls you the smartest person he knows and a big reason for the best statistical year of his career, I think it says something about your ability, at the very least as a play designer and OC. I have a hard time believing that Peyton would have said that had Gase been just a glorified waterboy. It’s true that he doesn’t get involved with the D, but McVay doesn’t either, and nobody seems to have a problem with that because he has a great DC. Give Gase at least a good one and I think he’ll be ok.
All in all, I thik that there are more positive traits to consider than negative ones. I’m not saying he’s perfect or the best coach in the league, but clearly better than most of what’s available. At the very least I would say he deserves another year with a better roster.
 
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Your question is difficult to answer because it’s impossible to know what another coach would have done after the end of last season. I take injuries out of the equation because injuries happen every year, and part of coaching in the NFL is figuring out how to ride through injuries without a deep roster.

Does the replacement coach hire a better staff than Gase put together? Are they better teachers? Better communicators? Better strategists?

Does the replacement coach have better input during roster construction? We heard Gase is involved alongside Grier and Tannenbaum. Does the replacement pick a contributor like Mark Andrews or Dallas Goedert over Gesicki, who has given us nothing in the passing or blocking game?

Does the replacement coach choose to not coordinate the offense or defense so he can see the big picture? Paying attention to player development, teaching, player usage (getting his best players on the field more)?

Does the replacement coach fire Burke earlier in the year to try and get the defense corrected?

I think there are a couple of coaches...Payton, Reid, Rivera...that would have addressed at least 1 or 2 of the above issues better than Gase. I think Belichick might be the only coach that could have corrected all 4 in the same offseason.
 
One of the biggest problems with Gase is that we haven't really gotten better at anything since he's been here other than turnovers this season. Our defense(with Burke as DC...lol) has gotten better at getting turnovers but what else have we gotten better at?
Here's a list of things we have NOT gotten better at
Scoring TD's
Giving up big plays on defense
Pass rush
covering the middle of the field, or any area for that matter
Pass offense
Run offense(even with Gore we're still not a great rushing team)
Pass protection
Our 3rd down offense
Our 3rd down defense

All those things we're just as bad as we were since he's been here and in some cases we're worse. Yes we've had injuries and so has every other team.

Oh I forgot, we've gotten good as getting lucky that other teams misses FG's in every close game which makes it looked as if Gase has been amazing in winning close games when in fact we've gotten lucky several times.
 
Trick question because you're asking another coach to live with Gase's personnel blunders over the past years...

That said, I really believe Gase has outdone himself this year in the stink dept, excuse dept, pass the buck dept,

I ain't got a legit answer dept, detached dept, etc.

IMO he has resoundingly proved he's NOT N F L HC material.

BNF
 
I've recently come to the conclusion that Gase is great at winning with poor talent. It's very hard to win with a mediocre QB... then throw in a bad o line and literally 0 stars outside of X and Tunsil and you have a recipe for disaster. Yet somehow he still has kept us in or close to the playoffs every year.

Now don't get me wrong, that does NOT make Gase a great coach. Getting the most out of poor talent is fine and dandy, but that's not the makings of real success in the NFL. I've seen enough bad game management from him that I do not believe he will ever be a great coach.

Point being, I'm not sure any other coach would have brought this team to more wins. But on the flip side, I'm not confident Gase would bring a good team more wins
 
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Dolfan Dave said:
I really fail to see how a new coach is the answer for more success. With all the injuries and personnel gaps I think it's pretty solid where we currently stand. I know the road blowouts are less than ideal and harder to mentally recover from but this isn't a very good football team.

We've improved in areas but others have forced guys to play out of position or run limited plays.

It's fair to criticize some decisions and think there are some things we could/should have done differently but ultimately I don't think that changes the season outcome by even +/- 1 game.

But real talk do you really believe there is a coach that's available that would have led the Dolphins to more wins this year?
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2 answers.
1) at least two thirds of HCs
2) Gase could have won more with a different OC/DC
 
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