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What does success look like for the Dolphins in 2020?

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With a 5-11 record in 2019 after a historically bad start to the season, it’s safe to say this team and coaching staff exceeded all expectations.

So does this change your outlook and expectations for 2020 at all?

For example, if they finished 5-11 again, would you deem that a failure?

Sometimes exceeding expectations in first year can be a bit of a curse as it was for Sparano after going 11-5 in first year. It altered the trajectory of their plan and gave them false hope and sped up the timetable of expectations from fans.

To me, 5-11 in 2020 would be acceptable, indeed expected. Actually, anything in the range of 4-12 and 6-10 is what I would expect given the strength of the 2020 schedule and the needs of this team (and the adjustments new players would make joining).
 
Well, things like an Xavier suspension could set back expectations...
 
Howard suspension wont set back anything. We won without him. We beat the PATS without him.

We lost a few games by very little. We could have gone 7-9, or 8-8 with a waiver wire team.

This team is headed up. I guess its true what they say, "Any Given Sunday". You dont need elite players all around to win games.
 
SkapePhin said:
Well, things like an Xavier suspension could set back expectations...
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Isn't that the point in having a coaching staff like the one we appear to have?
The ability to adjust on the fly and find someone to step into that role, if needed!

Now, I'm not discounting what an "X" loss would mean.
However, unlike previous regimes, I trust this one to find a solution in that event.
 
cant expect too much from rookies, so whether fitz is back and what they do in FA will determine expectations for me.
 
On paper the 2020 schedule looks very hard. Doesn't look like there will be too many games, Miami could win. I'm guessing 5-11 to 6-10 at the most. I hope to see an improvement along the Offensive Line and within the running game; balancing out the offense. They look to be solid at WR. But could use another duel threat TE and a workhorse RB. Improvement in defending the run would be welcomed, they need to be more stout in the trenches, on both sides of the ball. If they can do that, it be a successful season in 2020.
 
TheIr schedule next year appears on paper to be much more difficult than this years schedule. So I think a 5-7 win season next year is probably the best we can expect. I still think this rebuild is going to take another couple of years and teams next year are not going to take the Dolphins as lightly as many teams did this year.

With a multitude of draft picks and plenty of cap money over the next two years, I think the 2021 season should be the year the Dolphins should make a legitimate run at the playoffs.
 
1972forever said:
TheIr schedule next year appears on paper to be much more difficult than this years schedule. So I think a 5-7 win season next year is probably the best we can expect. I still think this rebuild is going to take another couple of years and teams next year are not going to take the Dolphins as lightly as many teams did this year.

With a multitude of draft picks and plenty of cap money over the next two years, I think the 2021 season should be the year the Dolphins should make a legitimate run at the playoffs.
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Crazy to think that by the time the Dolphins win another playoff game it will be over 20 years since they last did it.

The last playoff win was in 2001.
 
I would say highest would be 8-8 lowest 4 - 12 my aim would be 6 - 10 but happy with 5 - 11
 
I’m not expecting playoffs next year so the number of wins doesn’t really matter. I think success would be developing the 2020 rookie class and continuing to play hard as we did the second half of this season. This doesn’t look like a fluke like Sparanos first year. This staff seems to know what they are doing
 
7 or 8 wins. That of course depends quite a bit on what happens between now and next season. But with the current bunch of people (losing a few of course), and at least six new starters, I think we will do rather well with this coaching staff.

So long as they play as hard as they did in the second half of this season, I'd be happy. I feel a culture has been firmly established but it is still young. Need to see that grow and prosper.
 
I'd say success in 2020 has more to do with what the roster looks like than the win-loss column. I want to see key positions filled with ascending players packed with potential. The rest will work itself out if this coaching staff lives up to the finheaven hype.
 
SkapePhin said:
With a 5-11 record in 2019 after a historically bad start to the season, it’s safe to say this team and coaching staff exceeded all expectations.

So does this change your outlook and expectations for 2020 at all?

For example, if they finished 5-11 again, would you deem that a failure?

Sometimes exceeding expectations in first year can be a bit of a curse as it was for Sparano after going 11-5 in first year. It altered the trajectory of their plan and gave them false hope and sped up the timetable of expectations from fans.

To me, 5-11 in 2020 would be acceptable, indeed expected. Actually, anything in the range of 4-12 and 6-10 is what I would expect given the strength of the 2020 schedule and the needs of this team (and the adjustments new players would make joining).
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It's so much more than won/loss record to me. This team was fighting at the end of the season with nothing really to play for but pride. That is a great sign for the future. They played hard for Flores and his staff.

Now, I want to see the team building the right way. The fan in me wants to see the running game emerge and make that the emphasis of the offseason. But, you've got to chase the talent. Miami has so many holes and my expectation is that the team will look for those premium positions first -- quarterback, pass rusher, corner, and blindside pass protector.

I guess the bottom line for me is I want to see progress towards what is really a complete rebuild.
 
I guess my expectations are higher than most.

I see no reason why 8-8 isn't not only probable, but anything less, and I will be disappointed.

6 home wins, and 2 road wins, is something any solid team should be able to accomplish, barring a slew of injuries.

Look, more than half the guys on the end of the year roster, were not even here for TC and preseason.

Our Oline was about atrocious, particularly early. Pass pro, and the run game were virtually non existant a majority of the time.

We had nothing in the way of a consistent pass rush.

Our secondary, much like the line, was a revolving door of inexperienced young guys.

Yet, by the end of the season, we were competitive, actually beating 2 playoff teams.
 
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