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Dude has not experience, and Chicago is not really something to brag about. Yet many fans seem intent on him. If we are going to hire a coordinator I would rather have Campbell.

Am I missing something? Those who are fans sell me on this guy because right now I see nothing to care about.
 
He's supposedly well respected in the league. I wanted to keep hickey because of the last two year drafts were good. Apparently this is the guy thats actually responsible for those drafts,only now hes responsible for scoutingfree agent talent as well.
 
He's supposedly well respected in the league. I wanted to keep hickey because of the last two year drafts were good. Apparently this is the guy thats actually responsible for those drafts,only now hes responsible for scoutingfree agent talent as well.

He's asking about Gase the coach not Grier.
 
He's supposedly well respected in the league. I wanted to keep hickey because of the last two year drafts were good. Apparently this is the guy thats actually responsible for those drafts,only now hes responsible for scoutingfree agent talent as well.

I think you're confused. Gase would be interviewing for the head coach position Chris Grier is the new GM.


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Because everyone who's worked with him raves about him. He's done a good job at both of his NFL stops, and when NFL execs and coaches get polled, they all put him at #1 on their list of guys they think would be great coaches.

P.S. In before someone compares him to Joe Philbin. Joe Philbin was literally a guy who got coffee and made powerpoints in Green Bay. They gave him the OC title because that's how they protect themselves from having their staffs poached.

He's not my first choice, but the more I read up about this guy, the more comfortable I am with giving him a shot. He is NOT another Philbin, and I very much doubt he is another Cam Cam.
 
He's the flavor of the month apparently.


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I think you're confused. Gase would be interviewing for the head coach position Chris Grier is the new GM.


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Yeah just realized that when i went back to the main page before it was under the grier thread and read it wrong. As for Gase, my guess would be from his time with the broncos when both seasons they averaged over 30 ppg although didnt hurt having peyton. Bears offense certainly wasnt impressive this year though so i dont know besides teams being desperate.
 
Gase and Loggains started in the offseason by rewinding Cutler’s Bears film five years back to the 2010 season, when Mike Martz was Cutler’s coordinator. Gase worked under Martz for three seasons, two in Detroit and one in San Francisco, so he had a thorough understanding of the Don Coryell-based digits system Martz ran, and the decisions Cutler was making in that offense. From 2013-14, former Bears head coach Marc Trestman and quarterbacks coach Matt Cavanaugh employed West Coast concepts, another system Gase learned during his first NFL job under Steve Mariucci in Detroit, from 2003-05.

“The starting point was trying to find ways to help him in the pocket when things aren’t going well,” Gase says. “What can we do to help him either create, or protect him? Whether it be a play call, or just working on drills that if he has to move and there are a lot of bodies around him, what’s the best way to do that?”

Cutler has praised Gase many times at his weekly press conferences (a team spokesman said the quarterback would not be available for a one-on-one interview). On his reduction in turnovers, Cutler said recently, “It goes back to the scheme and the way Adam calls plays and designs stuff, and the coaching. There is always an emphasis of knowing where everyone is at and not forcing balls.”

Loggains created drills to run with Cutler during the individual portion of practices, in which he throws beanbags at the quarterback or makes him move with heavy traffic around him, so he’s aware of how he’s holding the football. And Gase has designed pass concepts that have created discipline in Cutler’s game, putting him in the shotgun and having him get the ball out quickly.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/12/31/...hing-jobs-jay-cutler-peyton-manning-tim-tebow

A superior coach who knows how to roll with the punches. His willingness to adjust his scheme to his players strengths is, sadly, rarer then it should be in this league. Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler, Tim Tebow...you couldn't get a more varied group of quarterbacks, yet Gase succeeded with all of them.

While i think i prefer Sean McDermott slightly more, Gase is right there in the conversation for best available candidate. Id love for him to work with Ryan Tannehill.

When asked about his ability to command an entire locker room:

A fair point. And one i can't answer completely. I have no idea how Gase would respond with being responsible for an entire locker room, no one does at this point.

The only thing i can point out is how diverse a crowd he has won over up until this point. Having Peyton Manning praise you is one thing(although i dont think that is necessarily a given, Manning can be a dickish taskmaster), winning over a notorious petulant loser in Jay Cutler is another. Others with strikingly different personalities Gase won over include...
As it turns out, Gase's own choices for defensive coordinator may have been totally fine for a lot of people here on this site, at least as fine as Baalke reportedly led Gase to believe. Former 49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio would have stayed with the team in that role had they hired Gase to be the head coach, according to a new report from Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area.

Fangio was Gase's "first choice to remain in charge of the 49ers' defense," Maiocco reports, citing two league sources. He says that Tomsula didn't come up during the interview process, and that Gase was "prepared to keep Tomsula as defensive line coach with a title promotion." Maiocco doesn't confirm Kawakami's report that Tomsula as defensive coordinator became a sticking point, but it's not denied either.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/2/16/8048007/adam-gase-49ers-vic-fangio-jim-tomsula-report

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As a Hall of Fame quarterback, John Elway had plenty of go-for-it moments in his playing career. Now as the Denver Broncos' chief football executive, Elway has seen plenty of those moments thanks to offensive coordinator Adam Gase's aggressive style.

"I wish I could have played for him," Elway said.

http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/4119/elways-likes-gases-aggressive-calls

Both the San Francisco 49ers and Atlanta Falcons have been tipped to make a move for Gase, with the former parting company with Jim Harbaugh earlier this week.

"Of course he has what it takes," Broncos receiver Emmanuel Sanders told The Denver Post.

"Whatever happens, he'll do what's best for him and his family. If he does, that would be sad for me, but we've still got goals that we want to achieve together. Hopefully if it does happen, he'll go to one of those jobs with a Super Bowl ring on his finger."

Read more at: https://tr.im/WC5cq

Of course, you can find praise any coach if you look hard enough. But the near unanimous support for him around the league, and within the teams hes worked, is telling. Would he be dragged down by the den of snakes that is this roster? I have no way of assuring you he wouldn't. But i don't think apathetic assholes like Pouncey and others are that far off from Marshall or Cutler.

While not my first choice, my interest in him is simple: we live or die on our quarterback play. Gase gives us the best chance to improve that.
 
Jay Cutler having a good season and John Elway saying he wished he could have played for him doesn't sell me. Aaron Rogers vouched for Philbin.

In my opinion the state that this franchise is in requires a guy that has commanded an entire team and Gase doesn't have the resume to indicate he could.


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Jay Cutler having a good season and John Elway saying he wished he could have played for him doesn't sell me. Aaron Rogers vouched for Philbin.

In my opinion the state that this franchise is in requires a guy that has commanded an entire team and Gase doesn't have the resume to indicate he could.


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Hes commanded half a team and has convinced a hell of a lot of people hes capable of commanding the other half.

Having been a head coach isn't necessarily indicative of a persons ability to command an entire locker room. After all, they're available for a reason. Id rather bank on intelligence and talent over someone whose already failed.
 
Excellent up-and-comer. Well-respected young offensive mind. Peyton Manning raved about him, and the results spoke for themselves during his two years running the offense in Denver (NFL record 37 PPG in 2013, 30 PPG in 2014).

Turned down the 49ers job last year because the ownership/FO in San Francisco wouldn't let him pick his own staff (defensive coordinator specifically).

Did a good job reconstructing Jay Cutler this year in Chicago, although the team was still weak overall.
 
Hes commanded half a team and has convinced a hell of a lot of people hes capable of commanding the other half.

Having been a head coach isn't necessarily indicative of a persons ability to command an entire locker room. After all, they're available for a reason. Id rather bank on intelligence and talent over someone whose already failed.

Joe Philbin was intelligent and interviewed exceptionally well.

Saban
Cameron
Sparano
Philbin

All first timers and all failed. In this situation I'll look at why a retread failed and go from there.


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Joe Philbin was intelligent and interviewed exceptionally well.

Saban
Cameron
Sparano
Philbin

All first timers and all failed. I'll look at why a retread failed and go from there.


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Wannstedt and Jimmy were former head coaches and failed as well. Saban too was a head coach, just in college.

We shouldn't be looking at our own history when determining what background is acceptable or unacceptable. If we did, we'd only be able to hire scouts or fans for the job.

We have to take the best candidate available. For me, the best candidate is the one whose the most intelligence, talented, and has the greatest ability to win over the locker room. It just so happens the candidates with those traits happen to be coordinators for this hiring cycle.
 
Wannstedt and Jimmy were former head coaches and failed as well. Saban too was a head coach, just in college.

We shouldn't be looking at our own history when determining what background is acceptable or unacceptable. If we did, we'd only be able to hire scouts or fans for the job.

We have to take the best candidate available. For me, the best candidate is the one whose the most intelligence, talented, and has the greatest ability to win over the locker room. It just so happens the candidates with those traits happen to be coordinators for this hiring cycle.

The culture when Wannstedt and Jimmy took over was healthy. If the Browns and 49ers were not in the NFL I would put the Dolphins as having the worst in the league. Rather bring in a guy that has the experience to deal with it then roll the dice on an unknown.


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He's the new golden boy, he did a good job in both Denver and Chicago, not sure that qualifies him to be the hottest coordinator, but he is.....he is out of our league, no way he takes our job with Philly, Tenn and Indy wanting him.....which doesn't upset me at all.....
 
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