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I'm looking around Finheaven, and everyone has there own opinion of what the Phins should do at the Quarterback position. Everyone has there own arguments on their position and each as both positive and negative aspects. All this Qb talk has me thinking: Regardless of who plays the position next year, what kind of stats does he need to put up for us to make a deep playoff run?

It’s a complex question in that you have to factor in the performance of the rest of the team. Lets assume for academic reasons that CC has another ProBowl year (60+ rec 1000+ yrds 10+ TDs) Ronnie Improves as a sophomore (1100 yrds 10 TDs) Ricky does his thing (500 yrds 6 TDs) the oline continues to improve, and the rest of the offense contributes at about the same level as this last season.


Factor all this in and what does a QB need to do for the fins to push into postseason play and beyond? What is your opinion and do you think "your guy" can get that done? :cooldude:





BTW just for arguments sake I'm thinking:

ATT.....Comp....Yrds.....TDs......INTs.........QB rating
435......260......3500.....25........12...............89*


*=approx (I dont know how to calculate that thing anyway)
 
Phinja said:
I'm looking around Finheaven, and everyone has there own opinion of what the Phins should do at the Quarterback position. Everyone has there own arguments on their position and each as both positive and negative aspects. All this Qb talk has me thinking: Regardless of who plays the position next year, what kind of stats does he need to put up for us to make a deep playoff run?

It’s a complex question in that you have to factor in the performance of the rest of the team. Lets assume for academic reasons that CC has another ProBowl year (60+ rec 1000+ yrds 10+ TDs) Ronnie Improves as a sophomore (1100 yrds 10 TDs) Ricky does his thing (500 yrds 6 TDs) the oline continues to improve, and the rest of the offense contributes at about the same level as this last season.


Factor all this in and what does a QB need to do for the fins to push into postseason play and beyond? What is your opinion and do you think "your guy" can get that done? :cooldude:





BTW just for arguments sake I'm thinking:

ATT.....Comp....Yrds.....TDs......INTs.........QB rating
435......260......3500.....25........12...............89*


*=approx (I dont know how to calculate that thing anyway)
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I'd say over 20 td passes and less than 10 pics and well be beyond fine. Im a stat guy...but they can mean everything or nothing...more than 20 and less than 10...that with our runnign game/ defense should get us into the playoffs.
 
Hard to say. If we get a QB who can throw the long ball, we could get the LBs on their heels and open up our run game. I don't think the rating would necessary have a huge bearing. I'd personally like a gritty young gun like Roethlisberger in his first year who didn't need stats to light up a game. I know that is near impossible to find, but it would be great if we did.
 
infiltrateib said:
Your QB has a 93 rating. That'd make him a top 6 QB. He'd be right there ahead of Tom Brady.
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Wow, not bad. I shooting more for the Jake Delhome area :lol:
 
What do we need? We need a QB like Ben Roethlisberger.

We don't need someone to air it out like Peyton, or scramble like Vick. We don't even need a combo of those things.

We have a strong running game with a 2-back approach. We basically need our QB to put the ball in the air 15-20 times a game with a little touch on the deep ball. And with Chris Chambers, if you can just get it off his numbers but within 4 feet of him, he's bound to come down with it.

Screw the 3500 yards. I'd be happy with 2500. 200 yards a game is more than enough if we can give R+R 40 carries (total) per game. And with Mularkey back there, I think we have a good chance of being able to exploit weaknesses.
 
infiltrateib said:
What do we need? We need a QB like Ben Roethlisberger.

We don't need someone to air it out like Peyton, or scramble like Vick. We don't even need a combo of those things.

We have a strong running game with a 2-back approach. We basically need our QB to put the ball in the air 15-20 times a game with a little touch on the deep ball. And with Chris Chambers, if you can just get it off his numbers but within 4 feet of him, he's bound to come down with it.

Screw the 3500 yards. I'd be happy with 2500. 200 yards a game is more than enough if we can give R+R 40 carries (total) per game. And with Mularkey back there, I think we have a good chance of being able to exploit weaknesses.
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So you would be cool with Gus? He put up those stats this year.

And 200 yrds a game would be 3200 yrds for the season.
 
I dont care what our Qb's stats are if we win. Winning is all I care about at the moment
 
Phinja said:
I'm looking around Finheaven, and everyone has there own opinion of what the Phins should do at the Quarterback position. Everyone has there own arguments on their position and each as both positive and negative aspects. All this Qb talk has me thinking: Regardless of who plays the position next year, what kind of stats does he need to put up for us to make a deep playoff run?

It’s a complex question in that you have to factor in the performance of the rest of the team. Lets assume for academic reasons that CC has another ProBowl year (60+ rec 1000+ yrds 10+ TDs) Ronnie Improves as a sophomore (1100 yrds 10 TDs) Ricky does his thing (500 yrds 6 TDs) the oline continues to improve, and the rest of the offense contributes at about the same level as this last season.


Factor all this in and what does a QB need to do for the fins to push into postseason play and beyond? What is your opinion and do you think "your guy" can get that done? :cooldude:





BTW just for arguments sake I'm thinking:

ATT.....Comp....Yrds.....TDs......INTs.........QB rating
435......260......3500.....25........12...............89*


*=approx (I dont know how to calculate that thing anyway)
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I thought we were just looking for a guy to make some plays not just stats, if your looking for stats buy a guiness book of record
 
Phinja said:
So you would be cool with Gus? He put up those stats this year.

And 200 yrds a game would be 3200 yrds for the season.
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Gus didn't put up THOSE stats... you are not taking into account the number of attempts per game it takes. That matters a ton. That's why accuracy is so important. And YPA... both of which Gus was horrible at.

The key to what he was saying was a quarterback that can put up those yards on half the attempts... which is too much to ask for... but 2/3's or so isn't.
 
duss12 said:
I thought we were just looking for a guy to make some plays not just stats, if your looking for stats buy a guiness book of record
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:shakeno:

If he makes the plays, it shows up in the stats.

Why do people think stats are some made-up unimportant trivia?
 
nopony said:
:shakeno:

If he makes the plays, it shows up in the stats.

Why do people think stats are some made-up unimportant trivia?
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Good point. Anyone know if Kurt Warner's still available? Or Brad Johnson? :)
 
infiltrateib said:
Good point. Anyone know if Kurt Warner's still available? Or Brad Johnson? :)
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Actually, I'm with you. I say we get naked pictures of Bill Cowher's wife and blackmail him into trading us Big Ben. He'd my choice.
 
Leadership and winning is all I care about, I wouldn't care if he get 2000 yards as long as we win.
 
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