What the Alex Smith Deal Means for Miami...

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  1. Fins1971

    Fins1971 C'mon Dolphins Finheaven VIP

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    Sample size is now 4 for 4

    Peyton Manning raised his passer rating 14 points the season Osweiler was drafted.

    These guys need to be challenged to play at their best IMO.
     
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  2. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Brees' 4th season was AFTER they drafted Rivers. They drafted Rivers because they were convinced Brees had failed.

    Brees also went from 104 to 89 the next year. What does that do to your theory?
     
  3. FinfanInBuffalo

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    LOL.... Osweiler.....

    It went up by 11, then dropped by 15....
     
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    Thoughts?!?

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  5. Fins1971

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    Rivers drafted in 2004, Brees passer rating went up that year which is the crux of my theory. And no comment about Tannehill I see. Figured. Double standards.
     
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    I don't see why you can't understand. When a QB isn't challenged and has a free ride his play will tend to drop. When faced with the real possibility of being replaced they step up their play. It has happened 4 times recently. And it certainly did have an effect.

    You laugh at Osweiler, But Peyton was coming off neck surgery and Broncos didn't even know if he could still play. The drafting of Osweiler gave Peyton a short runway to get his game back to top level. He responded.

    Brees was crap. They drafted Rivers and all of sudden he became good with the fear that he was going to loose his job to Rivers.

    Smith average, but pushed to the top of the league when facing loosing his gig.

    Brady great but not able to dominate for 10 years, draft a replacement and he wins 2 more Super Bowls.

    Laugh all you want. If you think you can't be replaced you will perform at a lesser level IMO. And there are 4 cases that support my theory.
     
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  7. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Your theory is disproven in the following season by the same players. Brees, and Manning both dropped back down by a large number of points the very next season. The "challengers" that were pushing them were still there. How do you explain that?

    Manning's best season was 2004. His backup was Jim Sorgi. Clearly that put the fear of God into Manning.....

    Tom Brady's best season was 2007. Was it Matt Cassel or Matt Gutierrez that had Brady nervous and working harder....

    LOL
     
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  8. The Ghost

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    Tannehill progressed each and every season he's been the starting QB with no one "pushing" him to excel other than his own desire to be great.

    Now if Jordan Phillips was my QB, that theory makes sense.
     
  9. FinfanInBuffalo

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    LOL. Not able to dominate... 19-1 with 50 TDs and 8 INTs. Wow, just wow.
     
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    Ok, I’ll bite.

    NFL Draft 2017
    Bears draft Trubisky, their starter Mike Glennon sucks. The reason why he sucks? Because he is Mike Glennon.

    Texans draft Watson. Their starter Tom Savage sucks. The reason why he sucks? Because he is Tom Savage.

    Browns draft Kizer. Their starter John Doe sucks. The reason why he sucks? Because he is a Cleveland Browns QB.

    Can you stop now, please?
     
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    Correlation vs. Causation. Look it up. Likely to be of value to you beyond our boards here....
     
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    It must really suck to be a GM. They get paid for foresight, but get fired for hindsight...
     
  13. miamiron

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    To be clear, your position is that guys working in the most testosterone filled environment in the world (short of being in one of the special forces), playing the most sought after position in the game, risking their health in ways that are truly scary, with a ton of coaches playing mind games with you each and every day trying to find ways to push you even further, can get there lacking drive or an ability to self motivate?
     
  15. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Was going to post the same thing. That and the definition of coincidence.
     
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    Exactly what I said, 2 separate injuries back to back years in the same knee. He didn’t reinjure the same injury
     
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    No way, it’s like breaking a glass that was already broke but glued togeteher and, bah, just forget it
     
  18. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Babble away.
     
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    Seriously. Finding one more person to be wrong with might make it seem a little less lonely.
     
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    This is actually the most sensible thing you've posted about the entire subject. The last three words, specifically.
     
  21. TeeMoney

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    Living rent free in your minds.
     
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    The thought that you would take satisfaction in that is...creepy, at best. However, I don't think you have the faintest idea what that means.

    See, that phrase would be true if you kept coming to mind *without* you reminding us you exist by continuing to belabor a point. Trust me when I say you'll be evicted from my mind, as long as you stop doing that.
     
  23. The Goat

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    If the word around the campfire is true, and the Skins are thinking about franchise tagging Cousins again after all of this, then they're completely insane. What THAT means for the Miami Dolphins is that their fanbase...us...can say "Well, at least we're not Redskins fans."

    The Redskins would basically be giving a guy that they have repeatedly spurned the ability to completely screw with their ability to sign free agents.
     
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    Jesuschrist ... See the previous post.
     
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    Again.

    In case you missed it the first time ... Dingbat is mumbling bullshit, and Archie flat out can't take it anymore.
     
  26. The Ghost

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    I'm starting to hope Kirk Cousins signs with the Jets for a couple reasons. I really don't want to see them take a top end prospect at 6 and have a chance of rebuilding. Signing Cousins makes them at the best what the Redskins have been the last 2 seasons.

    I'm holding out hope that the 11th pick is traded to Arizona or Jacksonville. Maybe get Buffalo involved to drive up the cost on the teams you'd rather trade with.

    Maximize the value of the pick. It would be nice to walk away from a draft with 9 or 10 players for a change.

    All drafts are exciting, this one will be extra captivating kicked off by the Alex Smith trade. The top 4 QB prospects all have ?? but all could also emerge as the best of the class.
     
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    I have to admit I had no idea that Cousins > A. Smith in NFL circles. Always considered him a good fantasy streamer, nothing more.
     
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  29. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Stephen A. is an "A" that would have said exactly the same thing about Nick Foles a week ago. He has no idea what he is talking about.
     
  30. superphin

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    I agree with what Kellerman said, theres a difference between a Starting QB and a Franchise QB and Cousins is not a Franchise QB. Paying him 25-30 million is just insane, but ultimately you're worth whatever someone is willing to pay.
     
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    I don’t understand how all these threads always turn into a Tannehill thread. If he plays great next year awesome, let him prove it next year.
     

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