what's your score on top OTs
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I think your order is almost spot on. I would flip Jackson and Jones. Just my preference.
ChrisEAS
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Why is Thomas falling?
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Wirfs projects better at guard.Everybody falling for combine hero,watch the tape.
He isnt even best tacle on team,thats why he was rt.tackle.Thomas is by far most
NFL ready with Wills and Becton close by,Becton has a smaller body of work in pass protection
He isnt even best tacle on team,thats why he was rt.tackle.Thomas is by far most
NFL ready with Wills and Becton close by,Becton has a smaller body of work in pass protection
I think because he ran 5.22 40, and there are some issues with hands usage, so comparatively to Wills and Wirfs and even Becton and Jackson he grades less athletic. Depending on how the grading is done. Thomas ran a really impressive 3 cone tho and 20 shuttle.
It is all so close and in the end I do not think it will matter much on draft day, Thomas may be first tackle off the board regardless of the grading.
I like the 3-cone for Olinemen as it is closest to on field movements. I look at the jumps too as they indicators of lower body explosiveness. You have to check the bench reps compared to arm length to ensure they actually hit the guy. You can't have 11 reps like the kid from Missouri (unless he got hurt during it).
For oline though, it's tape. The stats above help confirm things you may see on tape, but it's about feet, hands, bend, technique and awareness.
There is risk evaluation involved, and if a guy is slower and a bit clunkier with hands, there is more risk, however slight.
I think the evaluation of these guys starts at the combine, with height, weight, arm length, hand size, those are the most important things, then the athleticism, and then the tape to narrow them down and confirm that they can play and sort them out.
I think the evaluation of these guys starts at the combine, with height, weight, arm length, hand size, those are the most important things, then the athleticism, and then the tape to narrow them down and confirm that they can play and sort them out.
Better to narrow down who can play and then let things like tests and measurements crystalize the tiers. The goal should be to get as rounded a view as possible on the player, and OL is a skill-intensive group. Lots of prospects have all the physical tools to develop into good OT's, but they never develop the skill to succeed.
There are also players who have skill but lack the physical tools to succeed, but I think you get a clearer view if you start with skill and then narrow it down with the other stuff that rounds out a profile.
ChrisEAS
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Ive read that Wirfs may be suited best as an RT or guard, and that Wills and Jones are best at RT. If we get Tua its fine then.
It also said Jackson is best at LT. I think it was Jackson who went up against AJ Epenesa all game and looked good.
It also said Jackson is best at LT. I think it was Jackson who went up against AJ Epenesa all game and looked good.
No need to look at 300 prospects before the combine. It's more efficient to look at 10-15 who match what we are looking for.
I was more suggesting that you could check the 10-15 top-rated OL so that you could develop an opinion of their play that isn't tinted by tests and measurements - helps to prevent double-counting.
Okay, but how do you know who the 10-15 are? How do you arrive at that list?
ChrisEAS
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Largo, what do you think about Ezra Cleveland?
Guard because of arm length, and a projection to guard because he played tackle, so later rounds for me.
Any projection like that, moving from guard to tackle and vice versa for me is day 3 and UDFA,