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When was the last time a rookie NFL QB, whose team is coming off a losing season, started his career with two games both as underdogs, won them both, and didn't throw a single interception?? I'm no lawyer so I am allowed to ask questions I don't know the answer to, and I don't know the answer to this question.
Let me be honest, I was not a fan of picking Tua. I knew he was an awesome person, great leader, and even very good QB, but I was afraid of the injury situation. And to be honest I still feel some of that, but yesterday's game was about as much fun as I have had, (with my clothes on) in a long time. It's been a long time since I didn't care if the other team scored, just do it fast because when we get the ball back we are going to retake the lead. I guess it's been all the way back to the Danny Days. I feel like had zona went for the 1st down instead of the last FG and would have scored a TD on that play, we would have still won the game. Tua just instills confidence in everything he touches. And guys this is just his 2nd start. If we can keep him healthy dolphins football is about to really get interesting again.
 
Up front: not a fan of college football, so when the hype train begins on some junior or senior, I'm kinda oblivious to his body of work. When Tua was drafted, I was excited as all get-out because the Dolphins didn't have to go 0-16 to get him and Flores was making the tea a cohesive and competitive unit as the year wore on. I always felt (and I've written it on this forum on several occasions) that Tua would take over after the bye. My reasoning for that being is that the offensive line would have more time to gel while Fitzpatrick started. Once the bye was moved up, Tua came in sooner than I expected.

Yesterday was a game I didn't expect them to win. WOW, am I so glad to be wrong! I know a coach can only do so much, but Flores' eye for talent and leadership is paying immediate dividends. Flores knew (or at least hoped) that Tua could put the team on his back and lead them to victory. Yesterday--on the road against a good team with a transcendent young quarterback--was a game that, if Tua's career takes the trajectory we all hope it will take, will be remembered for many years to come. That game had me all over the place emotionally. After yesterday, I would buy a Tua jersey, but I'm afraid that I'll upset the Universe with my purchase and he'll slip and fall on a McDonald's wrapper and that'll be the end of his year.

Now the league has to take the Dolphins seriously. They may not overtake the Bills for the division lead, but they will in the conversation for a wild card spot going forward. And boy, does it feel good!
 
We have our own little group of guys in VIP who scout college players and discuss the best fits and so on. I admit that I HATE Bama players so it was a shock to all of them when I said I liked Tua a lot. Silver will tell you how he thought that must mean Tua must be pretty good. Not like it was hard to see, he goes through progressions quickly, manipulates the defense with his eyes to move the safety on deep throws, can read a defense like a veteran, has a quick release, makes accurate throws (ball placement is spot on), he's got pocket awareness, quick feet to climb the ladder and work the pocket...he's everything you dream of in a QB. His only issue was injuries...but yesterday he did something better than he did at Alabama. He scrambled and took what the defense gave him and slid...well before the defenders got close. He didn't take big hits when he ran with the ball and that right there will keep him healthy for the season and seasons to come.

Dolphins, for the first time since Marino, have a legit franchise QB that can carry a franchise...but, the Dolphins need to be smart going forward and build AROUND Tua. They did an excellent job of fixing the OL, now we need to get some speed at WR, and a bell cow at RB. After Mark Duper and Mark Clayton were gone, Marino never had a WR corp near as good as early in his career. We can't make that mistake. They never built a proper team around Tannehill either and we all see how well he's playing in Tennessee. It's the next step in the evolution of the Dolphins.
 
coalesce said:
Up front: not a fan of college football, so when the hype train begins on some junior or senior, I'm kinda oblivious to his body of work. When Tua was drafted, I was excited as all get-out because the Dolphins didn't have to go 0-16 to get him and Flores was making the tea a cohesive and competitive unit as the year wore on. I always felt (and I've written it on this forum on several occasions) that Tua would take over after the bye. My reasoning for that being is that the offensive line would have more time to gel while Fitzpatrick started. Once the bye was moved up, Tua came in sooner than I expected.

Yesterday was a game I didn't expect them to win. WOW, am I so glad to be wrong! I know a coach can only do so much, but Flores' eye for talent and leadership is paying immediate dividends. Flores knew (or at least hoped) that Tua could put the team on his back and lead them to victory. Yesterday--on the road against a good team with a transcendent young quarterback--was a game that, if Tua's career takes the trajectory we all hope it will take, will be remembered for many years to come. That game had me all over the place emotionally. After yesterday, I would buy a Tua jersey, but I'm afraid that I'll upset the Universe with my purchase and he'll slip and fall on a McDonald's wrapper and that'll be the end of his year.

Now the league has to take the Dolphins seriously. They may not overtake the Bills for the division lead, but they will in the conversation for a wild card spot going forward. And boy, does it feel good!
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LMAO at the "fans" posting in the game day thread how it was game over as early as late in the 3rd quarter, when it was a one score game.

Reminds me of a hand shy dog that been beat too much.
 
KTOWNFINFAN said:
When was the last time a rookie NFL QB, whose team is coming off a losing season, started his career with two games both as underdogs, won them both, and didn't throw a single interception?? I'm no lawyer so I am allowed to ask questions I don't know the answer to, and I don't know the answer to this question.
Let me be honest, I was not a fan of picking Tua. I knew he was an awesome person, great leader, and even very good QB, but I was afraid of the injury situation. And to be honest I still feel some of that, but yesterday's game was about as much fun as I have had, (with my clothes on) in a long time. It's been a long time since I didn't care if the other team scored, just do it fast because when we get the ball back we are going to retake the lead. I guess it's been all the way back to the Danny Days. I feel like had zona went for the 1st down instead of the last FG and would have scored a TD on that play, we would have still won the game. Tua just instills confidence in everything he touches. And guys this is just his 2nd start. If we can keep him healthy dolphins football is about to really get interesting again.
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Chad Henne? I'm not really sure, I know he beat the Jets on a night game. It was for 1st place in the division...after 1 game, I thought we had our qb. I was wrong!! Love Tua hope he continues to ascend.
 
Tua is, exactly who I hoped he was.

Now it’s time to have some fun. This season may or may not end with a post season victory, we are getting to the post season though.

2021.....it’s on.

Just wait til the offense is stacked with talent. Tua is the reason I want Sewell. Tua is the reason I want Creed Humphrey. Tua is the reason I actually want to draft a WR high next April (which I’m usually steadfast against).

We can survive with a few more defensive players in free agency or 2nd/3rd round prospects. I don’t see the top end pass rushers come via the 2021 draft. More likely a safety is drafted than a pass rusher, in 2021.

I want to complete the offense, like ASAP.
 
Fun game yesterday. But people seem to be on a sugar high today.

Miami wasn't perfect and will need to clean up some things going forward.

Yesterday in the game thread I seen a few making declarations that Tua 2nd game was career defining and other such poo. It isn't and won't be. I look forward to watching this team mature and grow. But I also won't be losing my mind when they do experience more growing pains, and lay a egg.

I just wish people would enjoy the process and not get out over the skiis with expectations.
 
When was the last time you saw the defense on an off game where the Cardinals seemed to be moving up and down the field and it didn't matter because Miami's offense seemed to be just as potent. And Miami wasn't doing it with flash plays, they were just moving the ball steadily and avoiding mistakes. Each team had three drives that didn't end in a td, fg or fg attempt. Miami had three punts, while the Cardinals had a punt, a turnover and a failed 4th down conversion.
 
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coalesce said:
Up front: not a fan of college football, so when the hype train begins on some junior or senior, I'm kinda oblivious to his body of work. When Tua was drafted, I was excited as all get-out because the Dolphins didn't have to go 0-16 to get him and Flores was making the tea a cohesive and competitive unit as the year wore on. I always felt (and I've written it on this forum on several occasions) that Tua would take over after the bye. My reasoning for that being is that the offensive line would have more time to gel while Fitzpatrick started. Once the bye was moved up, Tua came in sooner than I expected.

Yesterday was a game I didn't expect them to win. WOW, am I so glad to be wrong! I know a coach can only do so much, but Flores' eye for talent and leadership is paying immediate dividends. Flores knew (or at least hoped) that Tua could put the team on his back and lead them to victory. Yesterday--on the road against a good team with a transcendent young quarterback--was a game that, if Tua's career takes the trajectory we all hope it will take, will be remembered for many years to come. That game had me all over the place emotionally. After yesterday, I would buy a Tua jersey, but I'm afraid that I'll upset the Universe with my purchase and he'll slip and fall on a McDonald's wrapper and that'll be the end of his year.

Now the league has to take the Dolphins seriously. They may not overtake the Bills for the division lead, but they will in the conversation for a wild card spot going forward. And boy, does it feel good!
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Thank you for using the term transcendent because that is what this kid is

And thanks for your ressonable post
 
You are right. Tua instills confidence.

Both Tua and Murray look like players who might not hold up physically. That's my biggest concern. But the talent these two have is so impressive.

Tua's accuracy is pinpoint. He does a terrific job of using his eyes. He's poised and knows when to run. If he can stay healthy, Miami fans can start dreaming big. Lombardi trophy big.
 
DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
Fun game yesterday. But people seem to be on a sugar high today.

Miami wasn't perfect and will need to clean up some things going forward.

Yesterday in the game thread I seen a few making declarations that Tua 2nd game was career defining and other such poo. It isn't and won't be. I look forward to watching this team mature and grow. But I also won't be losing my mind when they do experience more growing pains, and lay a egg.

I just wish people would enjoy the process and not get out over the skiis with expectations.
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I have to ask. Why do you care what other fan's thought processes are?

Are you trying to protect them from disappointment?

I completely understand different ppl have differing narratives, but to say you wish ppl would temper their expectations/enthusiasm?

Seems a bit "father knows best" to me.

We all grownups here. We make our own decisions (to the extent any significant others allow), and live with the consequences.

Say this team continues to improve, and doesn't look back. You are missing the most glorious part of the journey. IMO.

Of course ppl have to also be realistic, but I do not see anyone seriously touting a SB run this year.
 
When a kid shows up and makes a hardass like Nick Saban throw everything out the window that made him who he was as a coach for 45 years and wins him a national title off the bench - you might want to pay attention.
 
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Mach2 said:
I have to ask. Why do you care what other fan's thought processes are?

Are you trying to protect them from disappointment?

I completely understand different ppl have differing narratives, but to say you wish ppl would temper their expectations/enthusiasm?

Seems a bit "father knows best" to me.

We all grownups here. We make our own decisions (to the extent any significant others allow), and live with the consequences.

Say this team continues to improve, and doesn't look back. You are missing the most glorious part of the journey. IMO.

Of course ppl have to also be realistic, but I do not see anyone seriously touting a SB run this year.
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And then you lecture me, like a father would.

Do you. I'm just seeing the natural swings after 1 game that have littered this board for 2 decades about players who ended up being a blip.

Anywho, do you. I just gave my opinion, and understand you and many others have a opinion. Just wish people would temper it some.
 
Pachyderm_Wave said:
When a kid shows and makes a hardass like Nick Saban throw everything out the window that made him who he was as a coach for 45 years and wins him a national title off the bench - you might want to pay attention.
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It was staring me in the face everyone should be able to see what a steal he is at #5
 
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