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When Will We Start Making Cuts Officially?

I don’t remember a player getting an extension that was more head scratching.

You might, so remind me.

I actually doubted my own evaluation because of his extension. Not that I wanted to be right. I’m proud to be a homer.

He is a very solid slot corner which is somewhat hard to find. Not fair to grade him out as a boundary corner, he should have never been moved there last year.
 
If they cut all of these guys loose and start over.....

  1. Released Ryan Tannehill
    (Saved: $13,188,332)
  2. Released Robert Quinn
    (Saved: $12,932,332)
  3. Released DeVante Parker
    (Saved: $9,387,000)
  4. Released Andre Branch
    (Saved: $7,000,000)
  5. Released Kiko Alonso
    (Saved: $4,772,500)
  6. Released Josh Sitton
    (Saved: $5,000,000)
  7. Released Danny Amendola
    (Saved: $6,000,000)
  8. Released Akeem Spence
    (Saved: $2,500,000)
  9. Released Ted Larsen
    (Saved: $1,875,000)
  10. Released Daniel Kilgore
    (Saved: $2,400,000)
Our starting lineup looks like this before the draft......

QB Luke Falk/Jake Rudock
WR Kenny Stills
WR Albert Wilson
WR Jakeem Grant
TE Mike Gesicki
RB Kenyan Drake/Ballage
LT Tunsil
LG Isaac Asiata
C none
RG Jesse Davis
RT none

DE Tank Carradine
DT Davon Godchaux
DT Vincent Taylor
DE Charles Harris
SLB Chase Allen
MLB Raekwon McMillan
WLB Jerome Baker
CB Xavien Howard
FS Minkah Fitzpatrick
SS Reshad Jones
CB Cordrea Tankersley
NCB Bobby McCain

Team needs: QB, RT, C, RG, LG, DE, DE, DT, LB, CB

That's a tall order. Especially if you don't draft a QB. Pretty good route to #1 pick in 2020. Also $75M in cap space.
 
If they cut all of these guys loose and start over.....

  1. Released Ryan Tannehill
    (Saved: $13,188,332)
  2. Released Robert Quinn
    (Saved: $12,932,332)
  3. Released DeVante Parker
    (Saved: $9,387,000)
  4. Released Andre Branch
    (Saved: $7,000,000)
  5. Released Josh Sitton
    (Saved: $5,000,000)
  6. Released Danny Amendola
    (Saved: $6,000,000)

Our starting lineup looks like this before the draft......

QB Grier/ Luke Falk/Jake Rudock/ if u cannot get Murry get Grier in 3rd rd. start him as rookie and see if we can get luck at qb. this could be another Dak
WR Kenny Stills
WR Albert Wilson
WR Jakeem Grant
TE Mike Gesicki
RB Kenyan Drake/Ballage
LT Tunsil
LG Isaac Asiata, Larsen
C none
RG Jesse Davis,kilgore
RT James

DE Cam Wake /Tank Carradine
DT Davon Godchaux/Akeem Spence
DT Vincent Taylor
DE Charles Harris
SLB Kiko Alonso
MLB Raekwon McMillan
WLB Jerome Baker
CB Xavien Howard
FS Minkah Fitzpatrick
SS Reshad Jones
CB Cordrea Tankersley
NCB Bobby McCain

win 5 to 8 Game in 2019 will keep some of player hungry to play for future
your not going rebuild this team in one yr so keeping some of player this yr will not hurt.

Team needs: QB, RT, C, RG, LG, DE, DE, DT, LB, CB

That's a tall order. Especially if you don't draft a QB. Pretty good route to #1 pick in 2020. Also $60M in cap space.
 
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If they cut all of these guys loose and start over.....

  1. Released Ryan Tannehill
    (Saved: $13,188,332)
  2. Released Robert Quinn
    (Saved: $12,932,332)
  3. Released DeVante Parker
    (Saved: $9,387,000)
  4. Released Andre Branch
    (Saved: $7,000,000)
  5. Released Kiko Alonso
    (Saved: $4,772,500)
  6. Released Josh Sitton
    (Saved: $5,000,000)
  7. Released Danny Amendola
    (Saved: $6,000,000)
  8. Released Akeem Spence
    (Saved: $2,500,000)
  9. Released Ted Larsen
    (Saved: $1,875,000)
  10. Released Daniel Kilgore
    (Saved: $2,400,000)
Our starting lineup looks like this before the draft......

QB Luke Falk/Jake Rudock
WR Kenny Stills
WR Albert Wilson
WR Jakeem Grant
TE Mike Gesicki
RB Kenyan Drake/Ballage
LT Tunsil
LG Isaac Asiata
C none
RG Jesse Davis
RT none

DE Tank Carradine
DT Davon Godchaux
DT Vincent Taylor
DE Charles Harris
SLB Chase Allen
MLB Raekwon McMillan
WLB Jerome Baker
CB Xavien Howard
FS Minkah Fitzpatrick
SS Reshad Jones
CB Cordrea Tankersley
NCB Bobby McCain

Team needs: QB, RT, C, RG, LG, DE, DE, DT, LB, CB

That's a tall order. Especially if you don't draft a QB. Pretty good route to #1 pick in 2020. Also $75M in cap space.


Jake brendel starts over Asiata or on the pivot in that scenario assuming health of course.

He’s a no brainer tender
 
If they cut all of these guys loose and start over.....

  1. Released Ryan Tannehill
    (Saved: $13,188,332)
  2. Released Robert Quinn
    (Saved: $12,932,332)
  3. Released DeVante Parker
    (Saved: $9,387,000)
  4. Released Andre Branch
    (Saved: $7,000,000)
  5. Released Kiko Alonso
    (Saved: $4,772,500)
  6. Released Josh Sitton
    (Saved: $5,000,000)
  7. Released Danny Amendola
    (Saved: $6,000,000)
  8. Released Akeem Spence
    (Saved: $2,500,000)
  9. Released Ted Larsen
    (Saved: $1,875,000)
  10. Released Daniel Kilgore
    (Saved: $2,400,000)
Our starting lineup looks like this before the draft......

QB Luke Falk/Jake Rudock
WR Kenny Stills
WR Albert Wilson
WR Jakeem Grant
TE Mike Gesicki
RB Kenyan Drake/Ballage
LT Tunsil
LG Isaac Asiata
C none
RG Jesse Davis
RT none

DE Tank Carradine
DT Davon Godchaux
DT Vincent Taylor
DE Charles Harris
SLB Chase Allen
MLB Raekwon McMillan
WLB Jerome Baker
CB Xavien Howard
FS Minkah Fitzpatrick
SS Reshad Jones
CB Cordrea Tankersley
NCB Bobby McCain

Team needs: QB, RT, C, RG, LG, DE, DE, DT, LB, CB

That's a tall order. Especially if you don't draft a QB. Pretty good route to #1 pick in 2020. Also $75M in cap space.

It’s a tall order but really the right path.
You aren’t releasing any long term talent.
Pickup comp picks for James and Wake.
Clear the decks in terms of salary and personnel for the rebuild.
2-3 year process.
 
Jake brendel starts over Asiata or on the pivot in that scenario assuming health of course.

He’s a no brainer tender

I was just listing the roster situation before anyone re-signs or gets tendered and I had Asiata thrown in at LG which I'm not sure would be the case. The lowest tender amount is over $2M and it would be for right of first refusal. You gonna pay a fringe player that much? Just curious.
 
I was just listing the roster situation before anyone re-signs or gets tendered and I had Asiata thrown in at LG which I'm not sure would be the case. The lowest tender amount is over $2M and it would be for right of first refusal. You gonna pay a fringe player that much? Just curious.


how is the lowest tender on a initial udfa add +$2mil?
 
It’s a tall order but really the right path.
You aren’t releasing any long term talent.
Pickup comp picks for James and Wake.
Clear the decks in terms of salary and personnel for the rebuild.
2-3 year process.

If they make all of those moves it will be full on tank mode.

Don't really think that's the best way for Flores to start his tenure, and I doubt he/Grier will allow it to happen.

This team can rebuild and compete in 2019, but not without an offensive line and QB.

I would strongly consider tagging James myself.
 
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yeah but hes udfa. I guess we will find out soon.

This is from last year.

Teams have four different tender options they can place on their restricted free agent that usually keeps those players from leaving.

  1. First-round tender: Free agent can negotiate with other teams, but original team has option to match any deal and will receive a first-round selection if it opts not to match the deal.
  2. Second-round tender: Free agent can negotiate with other teams, but original team has option to match any deal and will receive a second-round selection if it opts not to match the deal.
  3. Original-round tender: Free agent can negotiate with other teams, but original team has option to match any deal and will receive a selection equal to the round the player was originally selected in if it opts not to match the deal.
  4. Right of first refusal: Free agent can negotiate with other teams, but original team has option to match any deal. The team will not receive any compensation if it opts not to match another deal.
First-round tenders are valued at $4.149 million in 2018.
Second-round tenders are $2.914 million.
Original-round and low-level tenders are $1.907 million.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/3/8/14834554/nfl-restricted-free-agents-rules-tender-amounts
 
If they make all of those moves it will be full on tank mode.

Don't really think that's the best way for Flores to start his tenure, and I doubt he/Grier will allow it to happen.

This team can rebuild and compete in 2019, but not without an offensive line and QB.

I would strongly consider tagging James myself.

As of January 1, 2020, you will not care about the 2019 Dolphins.

There's no grace in losing vs tanking. Do you want to have a Top 3 draft pick or #13 again to draft your next QB?

Pin your ears back, make the tough calls now and embrace the long term. Enough trying to salvage a season or a roster talk.

Purge mediocrity and cleanse this organization now.
 
As of January 1, 2020, you will not care about the 2019 Dolphins.

There's no grace in losing vs tanking. Do you want to have a Top 3 draft pick or #13 again to draft your next QB?

Pin your ears back, make the tough calls now and embrace the long term. Enough trying to salvage a season or a roster talk.

Purge mediocrity and cleanse this organization now.

There are certainly players that need to go (Branch, Quinn, etc.) becasue they are simply not worth their contract.

James is one player I am very concerned about though.

People say he's soft or whatever, but he's gonna get PAID on the market because he is very valuable even if Dolfans don't understand.

I think he's much better than Morgan Moses in Washington who's making bank because of how hard it is to find good tackles, sure would be nice to have decent bookends for the foreseeable future.

The idea of intentionally sucking for a year doesn’t work for me, especially before the draft.
 
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