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Sam Darnold starting the season with one of the best qb ratings in the league, leading his team to three consecutive wins. Sam Darnold a bust? Well, many people were surprised he was going to start anywhere this season. The Jets draft a qb,
and he to no surprise is struggling with the Jets? Does any of this ring a bell at all? You can get a talented qb in a bad team, and he won't perform nowhere near his expectations. Now I want to scoop the responses ahead of time saying "well he is a
rookie qb". Yes of course, he is a rookie qb, but so was Darnold as well. Darnold does have some talented players around him, DJ. Moore, Mcafree, and rookie Terrence Marshall jr. of course. But, their offensive line isn't filled with stars at all. They
don't have lineman that are outperforming other players with similar stats, but it is working for them.

You may ask yourself, why does this thread have to do with Miami?

1. The Dolphins, and the Jets have similar issues.
2. They both have issues developing qb's.
3. Both have issues developing winning teams.
4. And as you can see, former players tend to have better success with other teams.
5. Multiple head coach firings, and new GM's.

I am not trying to say Coach Flores isn't the right coach for this team, and that Grier isn't the right GM for this team. And I sure as hell not going to say Stephen Ross is a bad owner because he provides his team, and players some of the best facilities. What isn't working is the approach towards building a team. That isn't the owners responsibility, but that starts with the men that interact with players, and develop plans. We lost last Sunday badly, but what matters to me is what kind of pro active approach the team
takes to address those inner issues. In terms of who is the better qb for the team at this moment, we were able to score more points with the guy who went down that was getting massacred like a pornstar in a gangbang video. If we do not fix this issue
from a much greater fundamental stand point then we will not be worth anymore than any bottom league team that doesn't make the playoffs.
 
I am not trying to say Coach Flores isn't the right coach for this team, and that Grier isn't the right GM for this team. And I sure as hell not going to say Stephen Ross is a bad owner because he provides his team, and players some of the best facilities. What isn't working is the approach towards building a team. That isn't the owners responsibility, but that starts with the men that interact with players, and develop plans. We lost last Sunday badly, but what matters to me is what kind of pro active approach the team
takes to address those inner issues. In terms of who is the better qb for the team at this moment, we were able to score more points with the guy who went down that was getting massacred like a pornstar in a gangbang video. If we do not fix this issue
from a much greater fundamental stand point then we will not be worth anymore than any bottom league team that doesn't make the playoffs.

No please do. Say it, tweet it, Instagram it, Snapchat it, make a viral youtube and paint it in red in front of the stadium. Spread the word so Ross can know the truth. We should have some blue-chip players on this roster with the amount of 1st round picks we've had but all we have are sun chip players who crumble. If we had a competent GM this team would be loaded right now and ready for a deep playoff run.
 
Yeah I was surprised Darnold got another chance to start as well as equally surprised he's playing as good as he is. Some people are ready to start immediately some take time. Common denominator seems to be within 3 years after that there's a huge drop off. Just like a few years ago we had tackling issues its now become blocking issues. Fundamentals need to be addressed on the offensive side of the ball immediately. If one watches the all 22 its much easier seeing the issues which need to be addressed which for offense starts with first and foremost the o-line. Via reports that Austin Jackson may be moved to guard is extremely bad to hear imho. Austin Jackson isn't strong enough to block edge rushers how in gods name is he going to be able to block 300lbs+ defensive linemen. AJ clearly isn't ready atm but im not ready to give up on him he should not be starting period.
 
Jets were/are a **** show, not surprising at all Sam may turn out to be a serviceable Qb in the league. I always believe some bad teams may have a nice player or two and they just don't flourish in bad systems. Carolina was smart to take a shot with him.
 
I've watched their games, I wasn't really trying to but it just ended up that way....and he doesn't really look different than he did in NY skill wise, the difference is the players around him.

Its entirely possible to evaluate a QB separate from the offensive line and team around him.

I still wouldn't build around Sam from what I've seen in all three games.
 
Sam Darnold starting the season with one of the best qb ratings in the league, leading his team to three consecutive wins. Sam Darnold a bust? Well, many people were surprised he was going to start anywhere this season. The Jets draft a qb,
and he to no surprise is struggling with the Jets? Does any of this ring a bell at all? You can get a talented qb in a bad team, and he won't perform nowhere near his expectations. Now I want to scoop the responses ahead of time saying "well he is a
rookie qb". Yes of course, he is a rookie qb, but so was Darnold as well. Darnold does have some talented players around him, DJ. Moore, Mcafree, and rookie Terrence Marshall jr. of course. But, their offensive line isn't filled with stars at all. They
don't have lineman that are outperforming other players with similar stats, but it is working for them.

You may ask yourself, why does this thread have to do with Miami?

1. The Dolphins, and the Jets have similar issues.
2. They both have issues developing qb's.
3. Both have issues developing winning teams.
4. And as you can see, former players tend to have better success with other teams.
5. Multiple head coach firings, and new GM's.

I am not trying to say Coach Flores isn't the right coach for this team, and that Grier isn't the right GM for this team. And I sure as hell not going to say Stephen Ross is a bad owner because he provides his team, and players some of the best facilities. What isn't working is the approach towards building a team. That isn't the owners responsibility, but that starts with the men that interact with players, and develop plans. We lost last Sunday badly, but what matters to me is what kind of pro active approach the team
takes to address those inner issues. In terms of who is the better qb for the team at this moment, we were able to score more points with the guy who went down that was getting massacred like a pornstar in a gangbang video. If we do not fix this issue
from a much greater fundamental stand point then we will not be worth anymore than any bottom league team that doesn't make the playoffs.

Coaching makes a difference. SHOCKING!
 
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