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Teams other than MIA and AZ likely in the race:
Jets: NO NO NO.
Reasons: Rex Ryan's mouth, Play in same city and share stadium with Eli(nope), The team is in discord, they'd basically have to cut and run on Sanchez and admit they were wrong to move up and Its damn cold! do I have to list any more?
Seattle: no
Reasons: Rainy all the time. Pretty sure Peyton does not want to play his last 3 or so seasons in the rain but I could be wrong. plus to me it doesn't seem like his kind of city.
Redskins: Not unless its all about the money.
Reasons: all they really have to offer Peyton is tons of money and he already has tons of money. (If Peyton is only motivated by money than this turns to a yes but I don't think so), Same div as Eli.
49ers: The 49rs just said no, so NO.
Reasons: "The San Francisco 49ers are not looking to get into the Peyton sweepstakes at this time and are instead focused on Alex Smith, according to a team source."http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/07/san-francisco-wont-pursue-manning/?module=HP11_headline_stack
KC: probably no
Reasons: Its damn cold. here's a 7 day weather forecast to illustrate; 36, 32, 38, 32, 42, 32, 39.. Compared to everyone but MIA and AZ I think they do have a chance.
Which leaves us with Arizona and Miami. Here are some Pros and cons of AZ vs Mia - lets break it down:
1)Weather: Miami in my opinion has better weather for the wife and kids because the Phoenix heat sucks, my family lives there and I hate visiting there.. way too damn hot, but AZ has a dome which Im sure Peyton would prefer. Ive never lived in Miami but when I have visited It was awesome. Im sure its humid and hot though.
Edge: Slight edge to AZ only because of the Dome.
2)Weapons and OL: Miami has Brandon Marshall, Bess, Bush (one of the best receiving backs) Pouncey and Long Vs. Larry Fitzgerald, Wells, Heap, Levi Brown (AZ's LT), who some say wont be back. Arizona allowed 54 sacks vs Mia's 52 sacks (both bad). As far as backup QB's Miami's Moore has the edge as AZ would have to give up on Kolb take a big financial hit and would probably release him.
Edge: dare I say a Slight edge to MIA. Because Jake long is a bad ass, Pouncey is up and coming and the right side of our line could be worked on in first round of the draft. Marshall and Fitz are pretty close, Bush is better than Wells as a reciever. We also have lower draft picks. This is a big category because I think manning wants weapons and I think MIA can offer a slightly better package.
3)Cap Space: bold is projected free cap space
Edge: Mia but not by much, both teams will make room.
4)Team's Will to sign peyton: This is hard to gauge. Ross really wants Manning but we don't know if Philbin is sold. Ken Whisenhunt hired Peytons old qb coach and that doesent hurt.
Edge: This is a wash. I think both teams want Manning if healthy and both will pursue fully
6)Coaches and Owner: Ken Whisenhunt hired Manning's former position coach, Frank Reich. His cardinals have a pedestrian .50 win loss ratio over the years. Coach Philbin is respected but untested as a HC. Mike Sherman is a plus. Here is an interesting tidbit:
7)Division: Some say manning wants to stay in the AFC, Im not so sure thats a deal breaker. This is totally objective. Some say Peyton would love AZ's easy division and others say that Manning would love a chance to duel it out with Brady and beat up the Jets.
Edge: you'd have to think AZ right? but it depends on what Manning is thinking and we dont know that for sure. If its ease of division its AZ, if its being a badass its MIA.
Tally: Reasons to go to AZ III , Reasons to go to MIA III.
I really think this is a two horse race and basically it comes down to Manning's Priority's which we don't fully know.
Is it if its family, money, and weapons to work with? Or weakness of division, a dome and familiarity with the coaches?
Id say its pretty even but we have a great shot!, Whats your take on his priority's? any teams that are actually in the mix that you think might make a go?
Jets: NO NO NO.
Reasons: Rex Ryan's mouth, Play in same city and share stadium with Eli(nope), The team is in discord, they'd basically have to cut and run on Sanchez and admit they were wrong to move up and Its damn cold! do I have to list any more?
Seattle: no
Reasons: Rainy all the time. Pretty sure Peyton does not want to play his last 3 or so seasons in the rain but I could be wrong. plus to me it doesn't seem like his kind of city.
Redskins: Not unless its all about the money.
Reasons: all they really have to offer Peyton is tons of money and he already has tons of money. (If Peyton is only motivated by money than this turns to a yes but I don't think so), Same div as Eli.
49ers: The 49rs just said no, so NO.
Reasons: "The San Francisco 49ers are not looking to get into the Peyton sweepstakes at this time and are instead focused on Alex Smith, according to a team source."http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/07/san-francisco-wont-pursue-manning/?module=HP11_headline_stack
KC: probably no
Reasons: Its damn cold. here's a 7 day weather forecast to illustrate; 36, 32, 38, 32, 42, 32, 39.. Compared to everyone but MIA and AZ I think they do have a chance.
Which leaves us with Arizona and Miami. Here are some Pros and cons of AZ vs Mia - lets break it down:
1)Weather: Miami in my opinion has better weather for the wife and kids because the Phoenix heat sucks, my family lives there and I hate visiting there.. way too damn hot, but AZ has a dome which Im sure Peyton would prefer. Ive never lived in Miami but when I have visited It was awesome. Im sure its humid and hot though.
Edge: Slight edge to AZ only because of the Dome.
2)Weapons and OL: Miami has Brandon Marshall, Bess, Bush (one of the best receiving backs) Pouncey and Long Vs. Larry Fitzgerald, Wells, Heap, Levi Brown (AZ's LT), who some say wont be back. Arizona allowed 54 sacks vs Mia's 52 sacks (both bad). As far as backup QB's Miami's Moore has the edge as AZ would have to give up on Kolb take a big financial hit and would probably release him.
Edge: dare I say a Slight edge to MIA. Because Jake long is a bad ass, Pouncey is up and coming and the right side of our line could be worked on in first round of the draft. Marshall and Fitz are pretty close, Bush is better than Wells as a reciever. We also have lower draft picks. This is a big category because I think manning wants weapons and I think MIA can offer a slightly better package.
3)Cap Space: bold is projected free cap space
Miami Dolphins | $117,416,173 | $9,057,394 | $13,641,221 |
Arizona Cardinals | $118,787,639 | $7,049,873 | $10,262,234 |
4)Team's Will to sign peyton: This is hard to gauge. Ross really wants Manning but we don't know if Philbin is sold. Ken Whisenhunt hired Peytons old qb coach and that doesent hurt.
Edge: This is a wash. I think both teams want Manning if healthy and both will pursue fully
5)Wife and Family/City: Peyton has a condo in Miami and the wife supposedly loves it in MIA.
Edge: Mia. Bigtime.This is kind of objective but PHX AZ is about as boring as a city as you can get. Im not sure peyton cares, but I bet his wife and family does. Seriously though, Beautiful beaches vs miles upon miles of suburbs.. Take the beaches.
6)Coaches and Owner: Ken Whisenhunt hired Manning's former position coach, Frank Reich. His cardinals have a pedestrian .50 win loss ratio over the years. Coach Philbin is respected but untested as a HC. Mike Sherman is a plus. Here is an interesting tidbit:
"Manning respects Dolphins offensive coordinator Mike Sherman and is aware that Joe Philbin is a good coach to play for, according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen." source link
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/07/2679267/colts-expected-to-release-peyton.htmlEdge: slight to Az. This is tough one but I think possibly the edge goes to AZ because of familiarity with Frank Reich. It is possible though that Whizenhunt wont want to change his whole offense and that Philbin's fresh start might be appealing to manning in a new city. who knows.
7)Division: Some say manning wants to stay in the AFC, Im not so sure thats a deal breaker. This is totally objective. Some say Peyton would love AZ's easy division and others say that Manning would love a chance to duel it out with Brady and beat up the Jets.
Edge: you'd have to think AZ right? but it depends on what Manning is thinking and we dont know that for sure. If its ease of division its AZ, if its being a badass its MIA.
Tally: Reasons to go to AZ III , Reasons to go to MIA III.
I really think this is a two horse race and basically it comes down to Manning's Priority's which we don't fully know.
Is it if its family, money, and weapons to work with? Or weakness of division, a dome and familiarity with the coaches?
Id say its pretty even but we have a great shot!, Whats your take on his priority's? any teams that are actually in the mix that you think might make a go?