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Who would you cut or trade from the current roster? Mario Williams, Jordan Cameron and Dion Jordan are highly likely departures and Koa Misi is vulnerable (exit visa is imminent). 30%+ of the 53 man roster (16+ players) are statistically gone. Welcome your thoughts.
 
People keep saying Albert, but I think no way. One more year.
I also think B maxwell stays, too. Not sure if there will be any other major cuts coming. Earl Mitchell, maybe.
 
People keep saying Albert, but I think no way. One more year.
I also think B maxwell stays, too. Not sure if there will be any other major cuts coming. Earl Mitchell, maybe.

Agree, there is much to cut from the defense Jenkins is a FA and maybe Mitchell as you suggest depending how the draft goes.

Offense Sims, Stills and Williams are FA so they get resigned or walk. Literally can think of anyone on the offense who doesn't get a chance to come to camp.
 
Jordan Cameron is an unrestricted free agent. There won't be any trading or cutting.

It all depends on what kind of approach they are taking. Last year, they went for the comp picks, pretty much signing only FA's who were cut.

Will they go that way again????? Who knows?
 
Mario Williams is done...possibly from the NFL entirely. If the rumors of Dion Jordan having "issues" is true he's done as well.

Jelani Jenkins - 50/50 just because the Dolphins have a tendency to hold on to players too long
Koa Misi - 50/50 see Jenkins
Earl Mitchell - 40% chance he's cut. He lost his biggest backer in Vance Joseph but the bigger problem is we lack depth at DT with an inconsistent Phillips, Suh and that's it.

We really don't have many guys signed for next year on defense.

DE - Cameron Wake, Terrence Fede, Dion Jordan, Mario Williams
DT - Ndamukong Suh, Earl Mitchell, Jordan Phillips
LB - Kiko Alonso (RFA), Mike Hull, Koa Misi, Trevor Reilly, Neville Hewitt
S - Reshad Jones, Isa Abdul-Quddus, Walt Aikens, A.J. Hendy
CB - Byron Maxwell, Xavien Howard, Tony Lippett, Bobby McCain, Jordan Lucas

Those are the guys (not including future contracts of camp fodder) under contract for next year on defense. Not exactly a stellar looking defense on paper. Actually looks more like an expansion team on paper.
 
People keep saying Albert, but I think no way. One more year.
I also think B maxwell stays, too. Not sure if there will be any other major cuts coming. Earl Mitchell, maybe.

I see no reason that we would cut Maxwell. He is not a free agent and is under contract. Was the best CB on our team last year. Why is he being mentioned as if his contract is up or something?? If thats the case, we should be throwing the entire roster on here.
 
Mario Williams is done...possibly from the NFL entirely. If the rumors of Dion Jordan having "issues" is true he's done as well.

Jelani Jenkins - 50/50 just because the Dolphins have a tendency to hold on to players too long
Koa Misi - 50/50 see Jenkins
Earl Mitchell - 40% chance he's cut. He lost his biggest backer in Vance Joseph but the bigger problem is we lack depth at DT with an inconsistent Phillips, Suh and that's it.

We really don't have many guys signed for next year on defense.

DE - Cameron Wake, Terrence Fede, Dion Jordan, Mario Williams
DT - Ndamukong Suh, Earl Mitchell, Jordan Phillips
LB - Kiko Alonso (RFA), Mike Hull, Koa Misi, Trevor Reilly, Neville Hewitt
S - Reshad Jones, Isa Abdul-Quddus, Walt Aikens, A.J. Hendy
CB - Byron Maxwell, Xavien Howard, Tony Lippett, Bobby McCain, Jordan Lucas

Those are the guys (not including future contracts of camp fodder) under contract for next year on defense. Not exactly a stellar looking defense on paper. Actually looks more like an expansion team on paper.

the 2002 Houston Texans had a better defense than that
 
the 2002 Houston Texans had a better defense than that

It's pretty sad that the team let it get this bad but that happens when you have a horrible draft in 2013 and ignore the linebacker position for years. At least they have some promising, young players at CB. That front 7 though...35 year old DE is your best edge defender...one DT worth a darn and one average linebacker everyone around here thinks is an All-Pro. Not to mention the safety position behind Jones is bad.
 
It's pretty sad that the team let it get this bad but that happens when you have a horrible draft in 2013 and ignore the linebacker position for years. At least they have some promising, young players at CB. That front 7 though...35 year old DE is your best edge defender...one DT worth a darn and one average linebacker everyone around here thinks is an All-Pro. Not to mention the safety position behind Jones is bad.

When you think about it its amazing we even made the playoffs. I guess if Denvers offense wasnt so putrid...
 
When you think about it its amazing we even made the playoffs. I guess if Denvers offense wasnt so putrid...

We were much more consistent on offense this year and that helped a lot. They made a lot of excuses for the defense...offense wasn't executing well enough so the defense got tired, defense was built to play with a lead and the Dolphins weren't getting a lead early enough in games, etc. Truth is the defense sucked from the get go giving up opening drive TDs often. 30+ points given up in 4 of the last 6 games. Injuries played a factor but that just showed how bad the depth was. I don't know how many teams keep players on the roster who are strictly special teams players and not good depth players. Seems the Dolphins have more than a normal amount.
 
I like the back 4 maybe that's me but the DBs are fine save the nickel spot
 
*Some of these might be FAs anyway; don't have time to check every detail.

Jakeem Grant - $35K dead cap/$505K net cap savings

MarQueis Gray - $0 dead cap/$775K net cap savings

John Denney - ?

Mario Williams - $2M dead cap/$6.5M net cap savings (walking dead)

Dion Jordan - $0 dead cap/$3.3M net cap savings (walking dead)

Spencer Paysinger - ?

Neville Hewitt - $334.00 dead cap/$615K net cap savings

Mike Hull - ?

Koa Misi - $578K Dead cap/$3.62M net cap savings (walking dead)

Walt Aikens - $104K dead cap/$587K net cap savings

Byron Maxwell - $3M dead cap/$2.5M net cap savings (walking dead)

Baccari Rambo - ?

Andrew Franks - $0 dead cap/$615K net cap savings

And, possibly the biggest surprise: Branden Albert. The team might choose to move on from an injury-prone guy, and move Laremy Tunsil to his natural position of LT. Cutting Albert would carry $1.7M in dead cap, but a net cap savings of $7.2M. That's a lotta clams to shore up the LG and RG positions, plus add depth.

And don't be surprised to see Leonte Carroo on the bubble if he doesn't shine in OTAs and training camp. Gase's impatience with players who don't progress is well-documented, and Carroo had what essentially amounted to a redshirt year in 2016. If he still lags come last cuts, you might see him traded or released/possibly re-signed to the PS. $176K dead cap/$384K net cap savings. Here, the money is not the issue; it's a roster spot in a crowded, talented WR corps.

Extending/restructuring Reshad Jones could result in as much as $6M in net cap savings, with a guaranteed bonus-heavy new contract.

Isa Abdul-Kuddus might be another restructure/release/re-sign target; his dead cap number is $833K, but net cap savings would be ~$3M.

Earl Mitchell is a guy who might prove too dear to keep for someone who performed inconsistently. With a cap number in 2017 of $4.5M, his dead cap would be $500K, but his net cap savings would be $3.5M.

Not all of these will happen. But if they did, we'd have ~$38,000,000 in cap to add to the $8.6M we're carrying over from 2016. $46,000,000 in cap space is enough to fill every hole plus add depth at every position of need.
 
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Mario Williams, Jordan Cameron, Earl Mitchell, Jelani Jenkins, Bacarri Rambo, Jermon Bushrod and Koa Misi. Would be a good start.

Rambo, Williams, and Cameron I think are a given....

I think Grant will be hard press to make the roster, Drake more then fills that role and adds a demention on offense.

Others, I could see some depth LBs go as most have no real right to be on an NFL roster...the TE group will be interesting as I think each brings something...I like Sims, really like him and feel he brings more then he gets credit for....already dumped Fasano, don't do it again. Gray has a very high ceiling and could develop into a poor man Clay for us.
 
I'll say one thing...Spiketex is gonna need to to change his Avatar...
 
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