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Who would be your Dolphins Keepers?

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Seeing that Phins news is mighty slow nowadays, I have decided to verge into the hypothetical.
Heres our scenario:
Due to impending CBA doom, the NFL has decided to make all players free agents and place them into a draft.
Each team is allowed to protect 3 players to prevent them from going into the pool.
Which Dolphins do you choose? Remember to take into account all factors, including age, and positional value. It’s a tough choice for the phins with a lot of young talent.
Lets take a look at everyone's lists and reasoning.

My Choices:
Jake Long: I believe this is the absolute no brainer. Franchise LT's are one of the hottest commodities in the NFL. No doubt about it very important. Take back the kid you took #1 overall and watch him continue to be a pro bowler for the next 10+ years.

Chad Henne: Big risk pick here. The way I see if this scenario was to play out, mostly all teams would protect their starting QB. Henne is our QB of the future the Dolphins must follow suit, or risk mediocrity at the position.

Ronnie Brown: This was the hardest choice for me to make. A player who has definately shown durability issues at a position that seems to be diminishing in value over the years. However, there is no arguing that when healthy Ronnie is an outstanding talent, and can hurt you with his multifaceted game. Had a really hard time choosing between him and Carey.

Just missed
Joey Porter: Too old to build a franchise around
Vernon Carey: Inconsistent and RT does not have the value.
Merling/Langford: Great talent, but too young to tell, at a position that is not that high.
Ted Ginn: Not proven to be worth 9th overall pick yet, let alone a "franchise tag."
Jake Grove: Durability and C does not have the value.
Ernest Wilford: Just kidding.

Thoughts?


EDIT!!!!!
People seem to be interested in actually giving this a try. Heres the link if you wanna play.
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f3/finheaven-fantasy-nfl-keeper-draft-246916.html#post1062906598
 
Are we still picking #25 in this draft? I agree definately hold onto Long. But I would also hold onto Carey. All these other teams are gonna be running for franshice Qb's and T's. What im having a hard time with is do we hold onto Henne or try to snag a Qb in the "draft". Depends on where we're picking. If we pick in the top 10 I'd let Henne go and keep Brown. In the top 10 we could get a Rothlisberger. If it's lower than that i would keep Henne and snag a the top Rb availible.
 
Nice refreshing post, I would have to say hmmmm...100 percent Long, then Henne, Ginn just cause the value of the rest of our players are less IMO. We could always theoretically get most back lol.
 
Interesting scenario. I don't disagree with your choices of the players to protect. FinsFan_In_Iraq makes a good point about Carey... if all the teams were starting from scratch as we were it would be nice to have the tackles set. Do we have an 18 sack DE/OLB on the roster? Not that we know of. How about a shutdown CB? Negative. Immovable force at NT? Nope. So I'll stick with offense.

Long is, as you said, a no-brainer. I'll go with Carey for the ability to play either tackle position and OG if you find a better OT than he is at some point. My third and final selection comes down to Henne/Brown. I'll take Brown as of today. The thinking being I will get to draft from other team's unprotected players as well, and there are other prospects with good potential I could swipe if we lost Henne. We still don't know if we'd be protecting Manning or Leaf with him. Brown is a mixed bag, and I have some quibbles with his play, but he's a known commodity who can be extremely productive when he gets some help.
 
it is a tough question because only being able to protect 3 players there is going to be an absolute smorgasborg of talent available... So I think that means you protect your best 3. Period. Regardless of position.

LOng - no brainer...

Langford - I am gonna go with the Parcels school of thought and take one on each side of the trenches... Our youngest with the most upside... IMO langford is it on the DL.

Henne - This one is tough as we have not seen enough of him to know for certain what we have. However I would have to agree that the prevailing thinking among the other GM's would be to protect their starting QB's which would mean it would be by default the thinnest position available yet the most significant need. I keep him.

The only other guy I gave real consideration to was Ronnie but again adhereing to the rules outlined I would think that there would be a plethora of talent available 'out there'.

Fun question though.
 
i think our team would have a field day if everyone was available to draft. We would rape the talent pool.
 
Fish-Head said:
it is a tough question because only being able to protect 3 players there is going to be an absolute smorgasborg of talent available... So I think that means you protect your best 3. Period. Regardless of position.

LOng - no brainer...

Langford - I am gonna go with the Parcels school of thought and take one on each side of the trenches... Our youngest with the most upside... IMO langford is it on the DL.

Henne - This one is tough as we have not seen enough of him to know for certain what we have. However I would have to agree that the prevailing thinking among the other GM's would be to protect their starting QB's which would mean it would be by default the thinnest position available yet the most significant need. I keep him.

The only other guy I gave real consideration to was Ronnie but again adhereing to the rules outlined I would think that there would be a plethora of talent available 'out there'.

Fun question though.
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It would be so tough for me to keep Langford. He is not known at all throughout the league, so we could get him later on no problem. For these 3 being "keepers" you just have to take someone that is irreplacable. That being said:

Long, Henne, and Ronnie are my choices.

That is boring, and I really tried to change it form the original post, but I believe that would be the best choice.

You could think of runners that are better than Brown throughout the leauge, but chances are that the other teams would keep them, so you have to keep Brown, so others don't snag him. That same belief goes with Henne. Originally I thought, "well we could just grab another franchise QB", but those would get kept.

What I would like to see is what people think other teams would do. Maybe people can just choose another team, and pick. After all the teams are chosen we can then have a draft. This could be fun!
 
Let's start by having all the teams pick their "keepers". Everyone can play GM of a team, just pick one and then we will see where we are from there: The order of the keepers doesn't matter, but when all 32 teams have their 3, then we will have a draft in the order of this year's draft.
 
I'll start with my 2nd favorite team, the Ravens. Their keepers are:

Ed Reed-Getting a little up there in age, but he is a straight playmaker
Haloti Ngata-A true force in the middle, and so young still
Joe Flacco-The franchise QB that Baltimore has dreamed of with the huge arm
 
I really like the response this is bringing. I was halfway expecting to come back to my computer and be getting flamed. To comment on some of the things brought up.

Fins Fan:
The "draft" would most likely be determined from random order and then reverse order each round. So we would not be set in at any pick.

You mention snagging Roethlisberger in the draft. I would feel the Steelers would undoubtabely protect him. If I were to guess for them Roethlisberger, Hampton, Polamalu.

John Beck's Biggest fan (godolphins)
I agree we could probably get most our players back, becaue they fit our mold. It would be funny.
And I definately think we could dominate other teams with our FO.

Fynch:
I definately struggled with the Carey pick. Having two huge bookends to start would be great (and is going to be in this real life season.) Could never fault going either way.
Your Henne analysis is spot on. Thinking about the silly situation, all #2 QBs would definately be released. We could have the same shot at signing as good a player as Henne may or may not be.
 
SwimminInIndy said:
Let's start by having all the teams pick their "keepers". Everyone can play GM of a team, just pick one and then we will see where we are from there: The order of the keepers doesn't matter, but when all 32 teams have their 3, then we will have a draft in the order of this year's draft.
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I actually love that idea. A lot of work though.

If we were to do that I think we should start a sign up for each team, in the general NFL forum, just due to the fact that the "Dolphins Forum" is not the place for it.

Actually I'll start it an place a link in this post. Give me a bit to get it going. We'll see if we can garner some interest.

We may even just want to have a complete fantasy draft (with no keepers.) We'll see what people want.

I'll sign you up for the Ravens.
 
SwimminInIndy said:
It would be so tough for me to keep Langford. He is not known at all throughout the league, so we could get him later on no problem. For these 3 being "keepers" you just have to take someone that is irreplacable. That being said:

Long, Henne, and Ronnie are my choices.

That is boring, and I really tried to change it form the original post, but I believe that would be the best choice.

You could think of runners that are better than Brown throughout the leauge, but chances are that the other teams would keep them, so you have to keep Brown, so others don't snag him. That same belief goes with Henne. Originally I thought, "well we could just grab another franchise QB", but those would get kept.

What I would like to see is what people think other teams would do. Maybe people can just choose another team, and pick. After all the teams are chosen we can then have a draft. This could be fun!
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The tough part was assessing 'who might be available' in this scenario... I took Langford based on the philosophy of having two capable YOUNG players... One on each side of the line. IMO, Langford has the most upside... No rights or wrongs in this one... But it is fun coming up with a philosophy...
 
Fish-Head said:
The tough part was assessing 'who might be available' in this scenario... I took Langford based on the philosophy of having two capable YOUNG players... One on each side of the line. IMO, Langford has the most upside... No rights or wrongs in this one... But it is fun coming up with a philosophy...
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ya langford was gonna be my choice as well but i went with ginn because well he is good and i think i team would snatch him up if only to do kick returns. So i think Ginn would be gone within the first 4 rounds.
 
Great thread idea!

I'd pick Long, Brown, and Ginn. Henne is unproven at this point and Ginn is a duel threat with his special teams talent. I'd really love to have a player from all three phases of the game, but our defense really doesn't have a playmaker that is young enough to make that commitment to.

As to the idea for drafting for another team, you can sign me up for the Cleveland Browns, my fathers favorite team. And I'll keep Joe Thomas, Shaun Rodgers, and Braylon Edwards. I almost picked Joshua Cribbs instead of Rodgers, but I think Cribbs could be had in a much lower round. Brady Quinn is not a franchise QB, IMO.

I think it would be pretty tough to do a 53 round draft of 32 teams, but maybe we could do the starting offense and defense (22) and 3 special teams players. A 25 round draft does seem outlandish, too, but I think I could do it.
 
godolphins1985 said:
ya langford was gonna be my choice as well but i went with ginn because well he is good and i think i team would snatch him up if only to do kick returns. So i think Ginn would be gone within the first 4 rounds.
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Actually Ginn's versatility is a great point... I still scratch my head as to why he was never given the punt return duties on a regular basis... Just never made sense to me.
 
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