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Who's fault is it marino never won a SB?

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Is Shula not the coach he gets credit for? Was it the front office and owners for not spending enough to get the other talent needed? It can't just be 15 years of bad luck. ;) Who do you blame?


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Thanks for the link to the other thread. Not a very descriptive title there. ;)
 
tom olivadotti and shules loyalty to this defensive numnut!
 
I think the fault ultimately lies with Shula. He was too loyal to bad coordinators...wouldn't fire them. And he was a crappy judge of defensive talent from the late 80s on.
 
I think its mostly the Shula loyalty.. factor we had some decent players on D towards the end or marinos career (mid 90s) but Olivadotti (good lord I hate typing that) had the worst scheme in the NFL... his utlra-conservative approach and predictability went to the point of bieng laughable.
 
I think this is an excellent question. Here are my opinons:

1. Shula in a way. He was a very loyal person. He stuck with Chuck Studley and then Tom Olivadotti (both defensive coordinators) way too long. We were terrible on that side of the ball.

2. Our drafts started to fall off. I know Bobby Bethard eventually left and we had many suspect picks after that.

3. Dwight Stephenson's career ending injury. I personnally believe if he didn't go down, Dan would have overcome everything else and won one.

4. Buffalo. They finally signed Kelly and Cornelius Bennett, etc. and they ruled the AFC for a good part of Dan's prime.

5. Finally, Dan. I think in an attempt to protect himself, Dan would get rid of the ball a little too early and some key drives would end this way.
 
Marino....He was the QB right ??? he was the leader, he choked against SF..Why did the eagles lose the SB Mcnabb!!!
 
FinFan013 said:
Marino....He was the QB right ??? he was the leader, he choked against SF..Why did the eagles lose the SB Mcnabb!!!
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It was his second year and im sorry but the 9rs that year where an ALL TIME team...the fins went into that game over matched espescially on the D.
 
zeke0123 said:
It was his secomd year and im sorry but the 9rs that year where an ALL TIME team...the fins went into that game over matched espescially on the D.
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this is true but u can never really say marino raised his game in the playoffs. at least a little of the blame must rest on him. 77.1 passer rating is not that good for 18 playoff appearences. it's always everybody elses fault. i understand that it is a team game but he never had the same flair for the dramatic in the playoffs. the 49ers did have a great defense but he missed a lot of open passes in that game too.
 
I think you start at the top and work your way down. The organization didn't spend like the 49ers, for example, and without a salary cap committed teams could outspend for top talent. I believe Shula was still a great coach, but maybe had become a bit complacent with his coaching staff. I still don't understand why he stuck with Tom Olividatti so long. There were a lot of bad drafts too so blame has to be passed to the scouting department and Shula who had the ultimate say on who the team picked.

I think part of the problem was that Marino was so good that he masked how bad the team was (after 1985). The best Dolphin defensive players retired and the unit just absolutely collasped. But, the Dolphins still won enough games to stay around .500 or in the playoff hunt (good coaching, Marino). Because of that, they never got a chance at the top players.

The fact that Shula couldn't get a running game going to compliment Marino is a bit of a head scratcher, since he had the most effective running game in the early to mid 70's.
 
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