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Why is everyone obsessed with Hakeem Nicks? I know he has good hands and he can run after the catch and blah blah

This reminds me the year everyone wanted Ted Ginn....OOPS!

I understand that we need some depth at the WR position but why do we have to draft a WR in the 1st round? Why not a Brian Robiskie or Louis Murphy in the 2nd round?

Nicks, to me is hardly a 1st rounder...hes only like 6' 0". Im not hating on Nicks, because if Miami did take a WR in the 1st round I would want Nicks, but I think we have other issues right now....such as a CB. I highly doubt that Eric Green is going to be our main guy for the years to come.

We need to either draft a CB or a OLB in the 1st round. Im leaning towards a OLB in the 1st just because Im not sure if a decent/"Parcells" type LB will be available in the 2nd round and plus we could find some good value in a CB in the 2nd round.

I just dont feel that Hakeem Nicks would be much of an impact, and we could draft a WR just as good if not better in the 2nd round. He may be a little bit overrated and to me he is not worthy of the 25th overall pick.

I also would like to add that our WR's we have now are young and they can only improve, although players like Joey Porter and Will Allen are slowly on the decline...keep that in mind.

I wasnt totally dissapointed in our WR's last year, I cant speak for everyone but I felt like they played pretty good for the little experience that they all have...they will only get better.
 
im with you, not looking for a w/r, mybe 3round or later,
#1, cb
#2, lb
#3, nt/g/s
 
The reason I like Nicks is because he's one of the few guys that I can very clearly envision making a big impact at the pro level.

I know WR is hardly ever a sure thing...but with Nicks, I see it.
 
he is worth a 1st round pick..
I agree that WR isn't a first round need, but nicks isn't much more of a stretch than larry english, clay matthews, conner barwin, darius butler or sean smith..

i wish vontae, maula, cushing(ILB), jenkins or evertte brown would fall, but unless someone slips, i see nicks as a 20-35 type player, and hes rated right around 25 on most big boards.. It's not much of a reach, and i would prefer to trade back and pick up multiple better value positions..
I would love Robiskie in second round, wouldnt mind murphy with the 2b..
First round should be whatever Parcells likes, fans should be able to guess the second rounders easier cuz it's not as big of a deal as the first rounder... I love the late 1st-3rd round prospects and think we will really help out our team with those first 4 picks..
Doesnt matter what order, but we need CB, WR, LB, NT and depth.. As long as we getting potential starters I am happy.

If Nicks is available, it depends on who else is available, but he's worth the 25 pick, he's the solid possesion WR we need. I'd prefer more height, but i know he'd be good for us.
 
ckparrothead said:
The reason I like Nicks is because he's one of the few guys that I can very clearly envision making a big impact at the pro level.

I know WR is hardly ever a sure thing...but with Nicks, I see it.
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CK, with the different needs of the Dolphins, do you like the idea of a WR in the first?
 
Charlie Brown said:
Why is everyone obsessed with Hakeem Nicks? I know he has good hands and he can run after the catch and blah blah

This reminds me the year everyone wanted Ted Ginn....OOPS!
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Who wanted Ted Ginn where we picked him? Nobody wanted him at #9, it was a complete surprise when Cam Cameron tried to explain his pick at Dolphin Stadium. Did you even see the reponse from the fans when that pick was called? I like Ginn, but I would've never picked him in the first because I wanted Patrick Willis.

Charlie Brown said:
I understand that we need some depth at the WR position but why do we have to draft a WR in the 1st round? Why not a Brian Robiskie or Louis Murphy in the 2nd round?!
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Ginn is nothing more than a deep threat, you can't trust him to go over the middle and make the tough catch. He will either slide before he gets hit or run out of bounds before contact.

Nicks is that the guy who does the dirty work. He will make the tough catch, and no one in the draft is better than him after the catch because he is strong enough to break tackles. Know I like Robiskie and Murphy but they do not compare to Nicks, if they could; they would be mentioned in the same breath.

Charlie Brown said:
Nicks, to me is hardly a 1st rounder...hes only like 6' 0". Im not hating on Nicks, because if Miami did take a WR in the 1st round I would want Nicks, but I think we have other issues right now....such as a CB. I highly doubt that Eric Green is going to be our main guy for the years to come.
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I can understand how you feel here. I would love to grab Nicks with our 2a pick, but there are teams that will snatch him up before than. With St. Louis dropping Torry Holt a couple of days ago, I can see Nicks dropping no further than the Rams 2nd round pick. Nicks is 6' 1" which happens to be the same height as Michael Crabtree and one inch taller than Jermey Maclin. Height shouldn't matter but Nicks' production is far better than Robiske and Murphy, he had more yards than both of them combined.

I AGREE 100% about our CB concerns. I harbor the same feelings about the CBs like you have for Nicks. If the draft goes close to the average mock, the available CB at #25 is Darrius Butler, I like him but I'm not ready say he's first round worthy yet. Now if Vontae Davis or Malcolm Jenkins slid to us, I hope we grab him quick.

Charlie Brown said:
We need to either draft a CB or a OLB in the 1st round. Im leaning towards a OLB in the 1st just because Im not sure if a decent/"Parcells" type LB will be available in the 2nd round and plus we could find some good value in a CB in the 2nd round..
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There are plenty of OLBs projected to go in the 2nd round. Clint Sintim, Michael Johnson, Aaron Maybin, Larry English, Connor Barwin, Tyrone Mckenzie, Lawrence Sidbury (may go in 3rd), Cody Brown (3rd), and sleeper Jason Williams (4th round). There are far more 2nd round talent in OLB, than in WR or CB.

Charlie Brown said:
I just dont feel that Hakeem Nicks would be much of an impact, and we could draft a WR just as good if not better in the 2nd round. He may be a little bit overrated and to me he is not worthy of the 25th overall pick.

I also would like to add that our WR's we have now are young and they can only improve, although players like Joey Porter and Will Allen are slowly on the decline...keep that in mind.

I wasnt totally dissapointed in our WR's last year, I cant speak for everyone but I felt like they played pretty good for the little experience that they all have...they will only get better.
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There is nothing wrong with your view. You made some good points. I think Nicks could impact this team because he would be starting by mid season if not earlier.

:up: But you're right, OLB and CB needs to be addressed, even more than WR. Right now, I see Nicks being the best available at #25, unless the two forementioned CBs or a LB like Cushing or Mauluga fall. But if it came down to Nicks and Butler, THIS WEEK I would chose Nicks.

It's up to our FO to make the right decision. Speculating over who they should pick and why is all the fun for us.:up:
 
playmaker1 said:
CK, with the different needs of the Dolphins, do you like the idea of a WR in the first?
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From another post of his I read Nicks would be his first choice amongst guys like Rey Maulauga, Cushing, Matthews, Sintim, Butler......

CK thinks he is very Anquan Boldin like in his body and style of play. And THAT's what's for dinner!!
 
LOL at only 6 feet, he is virtually the same size as Boldin. Plus what is with the OPPS on Ted Ginn. All in all that was a solid receiver pick, and he hasnt even had a strong armed QB. Look at Nicks and you will see why, he is that good.
 
skipp2myloo13 said:
LOL at only 6 feet, he is virtually the same size as Boldin. Plus what is with the OPPS on Ted Ginn. All in all that was a solid receiver pick, and he hasnt even had a strong armed QB. Look at Nicks and you will see why, he is that good.
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I can only imagine Nicks and Ginn on opposite sides of each other with Bess/Camarillo shredding the middle week in and week out.

Nicks fits Pennington, plain and simple. All those short routes we saw...now imagine a receiver with the power of Nicks gaining extra yards off those plays. Opening up the field for Ginn even more. And BOTH receivers make a valuable transition to Henne in the future as well.

If it's a wide receiver we take in the first round, it's Nicks that I want.
 
Charlie Brown said:
Why is everyone obsessed with Hakeem Nicks? I know he has good hands and he can run after the catch and blah blah

This reminds me the year everyone wanted Ted Ginn....OOPS!

I understand that we need some depth at the WR position but why do we have to draft a WR in the 1st round? Why not a Brian Robiskie or Louis Murphy in the 2nd round?

Nicks, to me is hardly a 1st rounder...hes only like 6' 0". Im not hating on Nicks, because if Miami did take a WR in the 1st round I would want Nicks, but I think we have other issues right now....such as a CB. I highly doubt that Eric Green is going to be our main guy for the years to come.

We need to either draft a CB or a OLB in the 1st round. Im leaning towards a OLB in the 1st just because Im not sure if a decent/"Parcells" type LB will be available in the 2nd round and plus we could find some good value in a CB in the 2nd round.

I just dont feel that Hakeem Nicks would be much of an impact, and we could draft a WR just as good if not better in the 2nd round. He may be a little bit overrated and to me he is not worthy of the 25th overall pick.

I also would like to add that our WR's we have now are young and they can only improve, although players like Joey Porter and Will Allen are slowly on the decline...keep that in mind.

I wasnt totally dissapointed in our WR's last year, I cant speak for everyone but I felt like they played pretty good for the little experience that they all have...they will only get better.
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I would be more comfortable with someone who interviewed better.
 
Elliott 1 said:
I would be more comfortable with someone who interviewed better.
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Honestly, if the kid can play, he can play. There's no taking away from that.

Did his interviews scream "thug"? I highly doubt that. Some people can't articulate their words as well as others, or may not be the best when it comes to interviews.

Look at Ricky, the guy used to be dead scared of reporters...but he was a great player.
 
I want us to at least grab 2 corners ooohhhh if we can only have a duo like Madman and Surtain again (wets himself)
 
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