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why post June cuts won't help free agency spending

Good. We should be dedicating more of efforts on drafting and developing players anyway.
 
Disagree with the article. In my plan, I would release Phillip Wheeler Post June 1 designation and sign my draft picks with that money. It would be a 3 million in savings and while I might not be able to sign all with that cash, it would get me close.
 
I'm with Hayden. The article is misleading in that they pick two players who probably won't be the june 1st cuts. I've got to think Wheeler will be one, and I doubt Ellerbe will be given a June 1st designation.
 
How is it misleading? If you give a player a June-1st designation you don't get the total savings until June 1st. Couldn't be any clearer.
 
where's th'fish said:
How is it misleading? If you give a player a June-1st designation you don't get the total savings until June 1st. Couldn't be any clearer.
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Because they picked players that probably will be regular cuts, instead of June 1st cuts. Realistically, the guys we use for June 1st cuts aren't going to save us 14 million. They will probably save us closer to 6 or 8, depending on who they choose. We will have enough cash to spend in free agency.
 
It is slightly helpful...as Hayden said...for signing the rookies....it also gives you a a little bank to sign those late free agents (camp cuts) as well as make in season moves (to fill potential injuries.
 
where's th'fish said:
How is it misleading? If you give a player a June-1st designation you don't get the total savings until June 1st. Couldn't be any clearer.
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Is that true? Because... if so, what's the point on designating them post June 1 cuts? Why don't they just wait until June 2?
 
LibertineOneThree said:
Is that true? Because... if so, what's the point on designating them post June 1 cuts? Why don't they just wait until June 2?
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The way I understand it....

Essentially a player is released and can pursue gainful employment with another team, but he continues to count towards the team cap until June 1st. After June 1st, the players comes off of the team financials (as a current players) and counts only as "dead money"...why wait, bigger saving (meaning lower "dead money" amount). Each team can roll over money (to be used next season giving them a little more cap room) from the previous season, many times, these post June 1st designations become part of that roll over money
 
ConvenientTruth said:
The way I understand it....

Essentially a player is released and can pursue gainful employment with another team, but he continues to count towards the team cap until June 1st. After June 1st, the players comes off of the team financials (as a current players) and counts only as "dead money"...why wait, bigger saving (meaning lower "dead money" amount). Each team can roll over money (to be used next season giving them a little more cap room) from the previous season, many times, these post June 1st designations become part of that roll over money
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Yeah I get why teams would wait until June 2 to cut someone... I just don't get why a team would do it before June 2 if there is no cap relief until June 2. It seems the only people to gain are players. If there is no cap benefit for a team to cut a guy in March and designate him a June cut, why would they? They may as well just ignore his existence until June 2nd then call him in bright and early that morning.

Surely designating someone as a June cut DOES give more cap space to spend on draft picks / Free Agents in March, given that their contracts won't start until June anyway? It just provides cap savings NEXT year... Which is the same pot of money that teams are spending on draft picks and free agents? If so... The article is a bit stupid!
 
you can make up for most of it anyways with the pouncey savings on the extension...no biggie...i think you need $7 mil for the rookie draft signings...and you can always roll it over to the 2016 cap

cut all the dead weight...dont much care when just get rid of it
 
LibertineOneThree said:
Yeah I get why teams would wait until June 2 to cut someone... I just don't get why a team would do it before June 2 if there is no cap relief until June 2. It seems the only people to gain are players. If there is no cap benefit for a team to cut a guy in March and designate him a June cut, why would they? They may as well just ignore his existence until June 2nd then call him in bright and early that morning.

Surely designating someone as a June cut DOES give more cap space to spend on draft picks / Free Agents in March, given that their contracts won't start until June anyway? It just provides cap savings NEXT year... Which is the same pot of money that teams are spending on draft picks and free agents? If so... The article is a bit stupid!
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I think it is done to allow players a chance to be part of the Free Agency period....instead of a "**** you, other team have made their moves, good luck finding work asshole..."
 
ConvenientTruth said:
I think it is done to allow players a chance to be part of the Free Agency period....instead of a "**** you, other team have made their moves, good luck finding work asshole..."
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Which, conicidentally, as the exact text message Dennis Hickey should be sending to Phillip Wheeler on June 2nd.
 
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