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Why We Need to Have Expectations

Same old song and dance in this thread.

Every year after the draft people start hyping themselves and this team up and inevitably… it continues to end in failure.

Don’t do this yourselves yall. Don’t do it bc you’re setting yourself up for heartbreak.

This is not a playoff team. I see some here saying 9-10 wins. Thats not happening.

I too would love to be wrong and if I am then feel free to bump this thread and I’ll eat every bit of that pie gladly.

Buffalo
Kansas City
Baltimore
Denver
LA Chargers
Cincinnati
Houston

That’s 7 right there that we’re not better than. I didn’t even include Jax/Indy/Pittsburgh.

This team will not make the playoffs barring injuries to QBs of some of these teams and that’s assuming Tua plays a full season which we all know is highly unlikely.

It’s the same old thing year after year. Rinse and repeat.

As for “hope”… whenever a new HC/QB/GM trio walk into the doors of the front office in Miami… then my hope will be renewed as I’m sure others will as well.
 
Win playoff game. How u going beat Buffalo kc, Ravens or texans. U have beat ones of them in 2026. If we make it. These are team dolphins must be better than too win playoff game. There is no way around these team. Goal supposed be win playoff games. You right.
What? Bruh I have no idea what you just said...
 
Same old song and dance in this thread.

Every year after the draft people start hyping themselves and this team up and inevitably… it continues to end in failure.

Don’t do this yourselves yall. Don’t do it bc you’re setting yourself up for heartbreak.

This is not a playoff team. I see some here saying 9-10 wins. Thats not happening.

I too would love to be wrong and if I am then feel free to bump this thread and I’ll eat every bit of that pie gladly.

Buffalo
Kansas City
Baltimore
Denver
LA Chargers
Cincinnati
Houston

That’s 7 right there that we’re not better than. I didn’t even include Jax/Indy/Pittsburgh.

This team will not make the playoffs barring injuries to QBs of some of these teams and that’s assuming Tua plays a full season which we all know is highly unlikely.

It’s the same old thing year after year. Rinse and repeat.

As for “hope”… whenever a new HC/QB/GM trio walk into the doors of the front office in Miami… then my hope will be renewed as I’m sure others will as well.
This is what some of us here have been saying for years. I know I have.
 
Same old song and dance in this thread.

Every year after the draft people start hyping themselves and this team up and inevitably… it continues to end in failure.

Don’t do this yourselves yall. Don’t do it bc you’re setting yourself up for heartbreak.

This is not a playoff team. I see some here saying 9-10 wins. Thats not happening.

I too would love to be wrong and if I am then feel free to bump this thread and I’ll eat every bit of that pie gladly.

Buffalo
Kansas City
Baltimore
Denver
LA Chargers
Cincinnati
Houston

That’s 7 right there that we’re not better than. I didn’t even include Jax/Indy/Pittsburgh.

This team will not make the playoffs barring injuries to QBs of some of these teams and that’s assuming Tua plays a full season which we all know is highly unlikely.

It’s the same old thing year after year. Rinse and repeat.

As for “hope”… whenever a new HC/QB/GM trio walk into the doors of the front office in Miami… then my hope will be renewed as I’m sure others will as well.
If that happens after this season, the new HC will be Weaver. Same GM, same QB1. Now, would Weaver make changes? I would think he would want his own identity on this team, so I think Mia would be looking for their next QB1 if this happens, but unless McD suddenly becomes a really good HC this season, I think we are 2, or 3 years away. IF McD can fix some of his issues this season and Tua stays healthy, then I stand by my 9-10 win prediction. Understand that is not that far above .500 AND that is 2 BIG IF's!
 
What? Bruh I have no idea what you just said...
I will break it down to u. K.c Buffalo Ravens and texans are going win there division in afc in 2026. ( If dolphins make playoff.) I don't see don't beating none off these team. In wildcard week.
[Like I said of we make playoff.]
 
Dude I don't know what you thought. I never saw you on this board much honestly so I don't know what you thought last year. Maybe you said they would miss the playoffs. I take your word for it.

I said my expectations last year were to miss the playoffs and the best case would be to make it as a 7 seed but I thought that would be hard because I expected steelers and chargers to be good last year and I knew we would not make playoffs as division winner.
I am not changing my tune. I thought last year roster was terrible becaue grier did not get a head of contracts with wilikens and hunt.

I also thought having two edge guys off injuries was a problem.

I mean best case situation I think we could be a wilcard team and probably lose first round. Does it suck yes. I enjoy football season and grew up watching miami make playoffs and lose in the second round after the wilcard. So after years of not really making playoffs after 2001 then 2022 and 2023 were actually good season for me. Because we sucked so bad from 2001 till 2021. But I am not ever saying we are a super bowl team. I don't see that in tua honestly. I just think we can get back to being a wild card team.

btw I never thought they would win division in 2022 when they were 8-3 or in 2023 when we were 3 games up. Why? I just feel like buffalo is better and has the better qb and I seen miami **** up so many times I was still thinking Wilcard at best. Maybe I am just scarred from the past but I honestly thought we lose the divison somehow. I thought we would lose to cowboys, ravens and bills not titans.
NFC

1) Lions
2) Eagles
3) Falcons
4) 49ers
5) Packers
6) Cowboys
7) Rams


AFC

1) Ravens
2) Chiefs
3) Texans
4) Bills
5) Chargers
6) Bengals
7) Jaguars
Well I clearly didn't pick us to make the playoffs last year. There is evidence right here.
 
I will break it down to u. K.c Buffalo Ravens and texans are going win there division in afc in 2026. ( If dolphins make playoff.) I don't see don't beating none off these team. In wildcard week.
[Like I said of we make playoff.]
So english isn't your first language I take it?
 
We don't "want" failure, we just are intelligent enough to see the failure coming. Just like always, the team sucks ass and no amount of positive thinking and gas-lighting from your side of the isle will change the fact that we are once again eliminated from having a chance at a Superbowl victory before the season starts.

We go through this every off-season, the "optimists" start to whine and play the victim becuase the whole site wont sing Kum-By-Aye and buy into the cheerleader "it'll be different this year guys" bullshit.
Well said. Being a realist, is not in the homer's vernacular.
 
Same old song and dance in this thread.

Every year after the draft people start hyping themselves and this team up and inevitably… it continues to end in failure.

Don’t do this yourselves yall. Don’t do it bc you’re setting yourself up for heartbreak.

This is not a playoff team. I see some here saying 9-10 wins. Thats not happening.

I too would love to be wrong and if I am then feel free to bump this thread and I’ll eat every bit of that pie gladly.

Buffalo
Kansas City
Baltimore
Denver
LA Chargers
Cincinnati
Houston

That’s 7 right there that we’re not better than. I didn’t even include Jax/Indy/Pittsburgh.

This team will not make the playoffs barring injuries to QBs of some of these teams and that’s assuming Tua plays a full season which we all know is highly unlikely.

It’s the same old thing year after year. Rinse and repeat.

As for “hope”… whenever a new HC/QB/GM trio walk into the doors of the front office in Miami… then my hope will be renewed as I’m sure others will as well.
This post should be a mandatory read for everyone, each time they open the site and think about posting some optimistic gas-lighting BS
 
Let’s be clear about something…2024 was the down year for the Dolphins.

I said it going in and it’s worth reminding people that having just lost two $100M trench players, having lost our two premiere edge players to IR, having replaced our experienced DC with a younger coach (someone who was bringing an entirely new scheme), having entered the season with a host of short-term stop-gap players all across the roster…2024 was not a season to get your hopes up about.

2024 was a season for low expectations, time away and discussions about the long-term potential of this team and where it ought to go based on the failure(s) of ’22 and ‘23.

So here we are.

We’ve had our moment to breathe and self-assess.

Since our last Playoff failure, we’ve seen 2 offseasons in which the team signed a slew of players to various mid-tier deals including Zach Sieler, Austin Jackson, Jaylen Waddle, Jordyn Brooks, Aaron Brewer, Jonnu Smith, James Daniels and others. Nobody’s complaining. These aren’t bad players.

We’ve also seen 2 drafts in which the team has invested in DL, Edge, LT, IOL, RB, WR and other important positions. At this point—fingers crossed—we aren’t expecting any of those prominent picks to be busts.

Meanwhile, the team has tied itself to a QB who (when healthy) is above average and whose availability ought to be largely controllable with a little bit of good decision-making.

Regardless of where your expectations are at given the youth on this team, this is a season worth monitoring. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying you’re making a run come Playoff time. I’m saying this season means everything about your future.

If this roster were being led by any one of the NFL’s prolific HCs like Tomlin or Harbaugh we wouldn’t be questioning whether we were going to get the most out of these units. We wouldn’t be questioning the preparation being put in or the overall focus of the team as a whole.

For instance, the OL features 3 veterans on team-friendly deals paired with 2 high picks, at least 1 of whom spent all of last year getting himself ready and ought to be able to step in and contribute at a respectable level. We shouldn’t really be worrying about the OL…

…or what the expectation is for these players.
…or whether they’re going to grow and develop over the course of the season.
…or whether this newly revamped unit will help rejuvenate our lack of a run game.

You have a clear need to take pressure off the QB.
You’ve drafted OL highly in the last 2 drafts.
You’ve made a point to pull in RBs in each of the last 3 drafts.
You’ve also reached out in FA to strengthen those positions each year.

I’m not waiting to see what develops. I’m not stupid. There’s clearly need for expectation here.

If this unit doesn’t succeed and the offense doesn’t thrive with all its weaponry, that’s on Mike McDaniel. While Anthony Weaver is barely getting by with his patchwork roster, McDaniel’s cupboards are full.


Whatever the explanation might be if/when things fail, I don’t care. This season is on Mike McDaniel and for that matter, it’s the 3rd attempt at finding a HC in the Chris Grier era, the last two attempts having both ended in the firing of HCs who had issues with players. If McDaniel cannot motivate and lead this roster (which on paper looks very solid outside of the secondary) there are no meaningful excuses.

2025 is not supposed to be a “down” season.

It’ll only become a down season if we take what should by all accounts be a strong team filled with reasonable FA acquisitions and high-upside rookie-contract assets and do nothing with it. It’s only a down season if the team loses faith in its leadership and the veterans do nothing to act as a bulwark against that skepticism taking hold.

2025 is a year in which this team must take steps forward. At season’s end, we must conclude with the belief that the foundation we’ve establish through the last 2 offseasons is enough to blossom into something special.



If this regime (with its QB and its rebuilt roster) are to win Playoff games in ’26 and ’27 we cannot reach the end of this year making excuses. We must be seeing good things at that point…

…which means this season should be a gradual, upward trend towards highly-competitive games in Nov & Dec. Regardless of whether we make a Playoff run, we must be a transformed football team by the 2nd half of the ’25 season.

If by the end of the season we’re not confident in this new OL, if the offense isn’t embracing the run, if we’re not impressed with the new-found physicality of the team, if we’re still bad on special teams, if we’re still losing in-game challenges like they mean nothing and we’re still giving our opponents great field position because of our bad decisions, then this experiment is over.

Every complaint we’re hearing now—every pessimistic doubt—is something that people starting bringing up back in ’23.

We’ve now had 2 full offseasons to get this back on track and to evolve. ’22 was great and ’23 was a chance to run it back. But that’s now ancient history.

Our darkest hour was yesterday. 2024 was the moment to make difficult decisions, suffer through unfair injuries and slog through a schedule you knew wasn’t leading anywhere but to the couch in January.

You got through 2024 so you could get to 2025…and now we’ve been through FA and the Draft.

There’s either an answer among this group or there isn’t...just don't tell me 2025 is a "down year." No, sir. You don't get to call this a lost season. It means everything.
I don’t believe Tua’s durability can be fixed…he had the same problem at Alabama!

They need to identify a QB for the future and build a real team around him…without putting the team in cap hell!
 
For what it's worth, I do not believe Miami makes the playoffs this year.

HOWEVER:

I'll be rooting for them every single game. Never, EVER let anyone make you justify your optimism, ESPECIALLY those who do the "YoU're WEAriNg AqUA coLoRED GlasSeS" BS. The repeated evidence that they seemingly can't handle that stance is mind-boggling to me.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

The trolls don't like it?

**** 'em.
 
For what it's worth, I do not believe Miami makes the playoffs this year.

HOWEVER:

I'll be rooting for them every single game. Never, EVER let anyone make you justify your optimism, ESPECIALLY those who do the "YoU're WEAriNg AqUA coLoRED GlasSeS" BS. The repeated evidence that they seemingly can't handle that stance is mind-boggling to me.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

The trolls don't like it?

**** 'em.
It's easy to predict that a team won't win, after all, there are 32 of them and only one can win.

So your average troll can trash talk for months and be almost guaranteed able to say, "I told you so". It's the easiest (and most pathetic) way to go.

Honestly, I'm sorry for most of them.
 
For what it's worth, I do not believe Miami makes the playoffs this year.

HOWEVER:

I'll be rooting for them every single game. Never, EVER let anyone make you justify your optimism, ESPECIALLY those who do the "YoU're WEAriNg AqUA coLoRED GlasSeS" BS. The repeated evidence that they seemingly can't handle that stance is mind-boggling to me.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

The trolls don't like it?

**** 'em.
Very old and positive saying there "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst." You know there is nothing wrong with optimism and I am usually optimistic about our team in the first few games of the year at minimum and continue to be if we are in the mix. I am also a realist and when I saw our team in Seattle last season, I knew we were set to lose lots of games. I feel bad that a kid that worked his tail off (Skylar) got thrown to the wolves on the road behind a grossly inept offensive line that day. The beginning of the end for him. That familiar mantra "if Tua plays we are good for X more wins" has become so commonly mentioned on this board, it's as if some accept it. I don't. I hope Tua suddenly becomes not "injury-prone", but we all know he won't. Forget Marino's prowess at QB and remember you always knew he would play. Besides that Achille's injury, he was always suited up. Same with Tannehill, who I venture to say was the toughest SOB we ever had at QB. Those turnstile lines he played behind would have ended other QB's careers. Could Tua get us there? I think so, he definitely has the talent, but the odds are against it with his injury history.

I will still root for them every game, but I will also not be an apologist for bad coaching, especially at the HC position. I am hoping McD gets better this season and for his sake, he will have to, or Black Monday will be waiting on him. There, that is the extent of my optimism for '25. Go Dolphins!
 
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