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any man that says turnovers don't matter as an OC needs not to be our coach..lol
Look, I can't argue that Mike Martz is probably one of the best offesnive coordinators in the league.....but that's where it ends.
There are some coaches that are good at what they do, but that's it.... and Mike Martz is one of them.Mike Martz is an excellent OC and can make wonders with an underachieving offense, but he is HORRIBLE when it comes to coaching a team.
He falls under the category of another Dave Wanstetd, Norv Turner, Marty Morningwheg, Dick Jauron, Gregg Williams, etc. These guys may look like genuises when it comes to calling or creating plays, but become lame ducks when it comes to head coaching and taking the reigns of a team. Before we hire Wanstetd, there was a website built by bears fans explaining how Wanny destoyed their team and all his past failures as a head coach for the Bears, they even went on to warn us of how bad of a coach he was and why we shouldn't hire him....we should've listened. I wish I could remember the web address so I could post it, but i don't remember what it was.
Anyway, here are 2 websites I found by Rams fans that wanted to fire Martz when he was coaching St. Louis.....
http://firemartz.com/
http://dumpmartz.com/default.aspx
Here are a few quotes from http://dumpmartz.com/default.aspx...
dont know if you guys ever been to this site
http://www.firedavewannstedt.com/oldindex.htm
LeBatard is calling Martz "Ms. Doubtfire"....:sidelol:
PHINZ RULE!!!!
ever 1 in here is entitled to there thoughts and but imo i think Martz is the right man this job.If he doesnt get it so be it but in many posts i have said from the outset that i would like him to be the HC.If not him then who else ?? Cameron ? every 1 is compaining about his Indiana coaching record 18-37...Rivera ?? too little experience ?? Ryan ?? some people said its the players not him or that they hated his father so it would be hard to root for him...Chow perhaps..that was quicky shoot down and that leaves us with who ??? no matter the choice phins management makes lets all agree together now that only about 50 % r gonna be happy..it seems that is proble the only thing were gonna come to an agreement on all off-season phin fans
Can anyone name someone making the Pro Bowl since Martz has been controlling the draft for the Rams? He has had some minor and major issues with his players. Some of his players just don't like him. If the players don't believe in what the coach is doing then you get a 7-9 record, even with all the talent on the offensive side of the ball. Plus, he looks like the ******* son of Jabba the Hut.
Look, I can't argue that Mike Martz is probably one of the best offesnive coordinators in the league.....but that's where it ends.
There are some coaches that are good at what they do, but that's it.... and Mike Martz is one of them.Mike Martz is an excellent OC and can make wonders with an underachieving offense, but he is HORRIBLE when it comes to coaching a team.
He falls under the category of another Dave Wanstetd, Norv Turner, Marty Morningwheg, Dick Jauron, Gregg Williams, etc. These guys may look like genuises when it comes to calling or creating plays, but become lame ducks when it comes to head coaching and taking the reigns of a team. Before we hire Wanstetd, there was a website built by bears fans explaining how Wanny destoyed their team and all his past failures as a head coach for the Bears, they even went on to warn us of how bad of a coach he was and why we shouldn't hire him....we should've listened. I wish I could remember the web address so I could post it, but i don't remember what it was.
Anyway, here are 2 websites I found by Rams fans that wanted to fire Martz when he was coaching St. Louis.....
http://firemartz.com/
http://dumpmartz.com/default.aspx
Here are a few quotes from http://dumpmartz.com/default.aspx...
Trust me fellow finfans, we don't want to be in this same position a few years down the road....we should've learned from our mistakes with the Wanny era....We don't want Mike Martz.
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Did any of those Coaches lead their team to a SB as a head coach? Or had one of the most prolific offenses in the history of the game as a head coach. So, now you are comparing Dave, Morningwheg, Jauron, Williams to Martz? He actually accomplished something as a head coach. (During his five full seasons (2000-2004) as the Rams head coach, Martz accumulated a record of 51-29 (.638) in the regular season and 54-33 (.621) overall. Only five coaches in NFL history have more regular season wins in their first five seasons. Prior to the 2005 season, Martz had the fourth-best regular season record among active coaches. His 24 wins during his first two seasons (2000-2001) is the third highest in NFL history, and his 43 regular season wins during his first four seasons as head coach is tied for the third highest in league history. The same Martz that didn't lose many games to any of these coaches. Just FYI Martz has a better winning percentage than all those you mention. And what exactly did the Rams accomplish prior to his arrival and since his departure ? Sounds more like a bunch of Sour fans to me. Let him bring us to a SB and see how much time I give him. The Rams sole problems were the scheme and the players they chose on the D..
No none of those coaches lead their teams to a superbowl, but none of those coaches inherited a super bowl team like Martz did either, let alone a 2-time superbowl team.
Dave Wanstetd 5 year career with the Miami Dolphins was 42-31....just 2 losses shy of Martz....so please elaborate on exactly what Martz actually accomplished something.
name someone making the Pro Bowl since Martz controlled the draft for the Rams?
If he had a losing record at USC, or Notre dame or something, then fine. You would be allowed to use that for arguement. But Indiana University? No. you cant.
As for his offensive talent, i feel we have a lot of wasted talent on offense too. Cameron knows how to get the best out of his players, and more importantly, he knows how to get his big time players the ball when it matters most. If we brought cameron in, im positive we'd send at least one, if not more then one of our 'skilled' players to the pro bowl.