Why Would You Run It Last Sunday?

[Nature Boy]

I agree Linehan has been bad, but as far as last sunday i'm not sure why everyone is complaining about gus' 47 passes. He was on fire. over 300 yars and 2 TD's. If you are passing like that there is no reason to stop. It's silly to say we should have run more when the passing game was going great. Also, as far as those final plays to tie it up, Chambers dropped the ball. He dropped it. It was in his hands. What more does Linehan need to do? He called a play that worked but the reciever didn't execute. That is not on the OC. Its on Chambers. I'm not going to argue about the call at the Falcons... that was terrable. But last game was well called. We orchestrated two clutch drives in a row and were one drop away from OT.

Everyone needs to understand that 3-6 with the hardest record in the NFL is where we should be. Not only that but we haven't gotten blown out once, so if you ask me we are doing far better then we should be doing. The fact is that all you people on Saban's case are just making his good coaching work against him. The fact that he lead us to wins over Denver and Carolina is stunning, but then you guys began EXPECTING that from our team. It's unrealistic. If we had lost on week one there would be less fans on his case, which is just sad.

 

[callaway1234]

I did like his 360 yards passing, but only completed 27/40 passes... too many inc.s

 

[Silverphin]

I did like his 360 yards passing, but only completed 27/40 passes... too many inc.s

To Frerotte's and Linehan's defense, some of those inc's were catchable.

 

[Whitedolphin54]

I did like his 360 yards passing, but only completed 27/40 passes... too many inc.s

Man I would take that every week. I think we should get off of Gus 's case every once and a while. Its not totally his fault. CC is meant to be a top class WR but drops more than he catches. I believe that in previous games he has ****ed up, but this week was not his fault

 

[Caps]

I did like his 360 yards passing, but only completed 27/40 passes... too many inc.s

27/40 is a 67.5% comp. percentage. Add, say, 3 Chambers drops to that and he's got a 75% comp. percentage. I don't know if you can ask for more than that, even guys like Brady and Manning rarely throw that well.

 

[Spray Mucus]

This last lose was definatly not Gus or Linehans fault. I do question that 3rd and goal play with 58 seconds left though...


There where a lot of other factors in involved in that lose last Sunday.

 

[Given To Fly]

gus was 25-47 53.1%

 

[Dolphin North]

I agree Linehan has been bad, but as far as last sunday i'm not sure why everyone is complaining about gus' 47 passes. He was on fire. over 300 yars and 2 TD's. If you are passing like that there is no reason to stop. It's silly to say we should have run more when the passing game was going great. Also, as far as those final plays to tie it up, Chambers dropped the ball. He dropped it. It was in his hands. What more does Linehan need to do? He called a play that worked but the reciever didn't execute. That is not on the OC. Its on Chambers. I'm not going to argue about the call at the Falcons... that was terrable. But last game was well called. We orchestrated two clutch drives in a row and were one drop away from OT.

Everyone needs to understand that 3-6 with the hardest record in the NFL is where we should be. Not only that but we haven't gotten blown out once, so if you ask me we are doing far better then we should be doing. The fact is that all you people on Saban's case are just making his good coaching work against him. The fact that he lead us to wins over Denver and Carolina is stunning, but then you guys began EXPECTING that from our team. It's unrealistic. If we had lost on week one there would be less fans on his case, which is just sad.

1st and goal on the 5....Ronnie nearly 5 yd per carry avg.......I'm tired of explaining. Is that you Scott Leinhan?

 

[GRYPHONK]

I did like his 360 yards passing, but only completed 27/40 passes... too many inc.s

I am one of the biggest Frerotte bashers on this site.

5 dropped passes by Chambers. YES DROPS! NOt bad throws, plain drops that hit him between the 8 and the 4.
1 dropped pass by Barnes

You take those and he is now 31/47

Frerotte was not the problem. He had a dang good game and he was the reason we were in that game offensively. That was some of the best touch I have seen a QB throw with in a while.

Only 3 passes I thought were bad or off target the whole day. The one to McMichaels, the next was the one that almost got INT'D and the last was that throw to Brown that lost 4 yards in the last minute.

And to the guy asking why we didn't run? Brown was one of the main reasons we got to the 5 yard line to begin with with his nice catch and run.

He was averaging 5 yards a carry. We had 2 TO'S with 47 secs left. Why is it even arguable that we shouldn't have ran the ball.

Everyone and their mother knows it gets harder to complete a pass the closer you get to the endzone which is one of the reasons I didn't mind too much that loss to the 10 yard line.

So yes you run the ball just Like Seattle, Indy, TB, NE, ETC.... Does in that situation and I don't care how much better there lines are. Brown was averaging 5 yards a carry.

They could have ran it 3 times and still had a good 20 secs if they got stuffed all 3 times.

 

[CashInFist]

I agree Linehan has been bad, but as far as last sunday i'm not sure why everyone is complaining about gus' 47 passes. He was on fire. over 300 yars and 2 TD's. If you are passing like that there is no reason to stop. It's silly to say we should have run more when the passing game was going great. Also, as far as those final plays to tie it up, Chambers dropped the ball. He dropped it. It was in his hands. What more does Linehan need to do? He called a play that worked but the reciever didn't execute. That is not on the OC. Its on Chambers. I'm not going to argue about the call at the Falcons... that was terrable. But last game was well called. We orchestrated two clutch drives in a row and were one drop away from OT.

Gus played his heart out and it is a travesty that Chambers lost the game for us (Mare didn't help either...against the Pats...again :mad: ). He should have had well over 400 yards passing and 4 + TD's. But I think I am the only one that liked the 4 passes in a row at the end of the game. They were STACKED against the run thinking after the previous week's debacle against Atlanta they just knew we would run. Well, surprise! We didn't. And we should have had a TD at least 2 times. Certainly one if Chambers doesn't drop another clutch catch with the game on the line. I liked the playcalling the entire game for Linehan. IMO, he earned his paycheck this week.

 

[VanDolPhan]

Get past the passing yardage folks.

His QB rating was 83.5 and you can't expect WR's to not drop the ball. I've seen far worse on other teams for cases of the dropseys.

 

[mattgilm]

Gus had a good game against the Pats, Who cares. Gus is a very weak QB period. He may know the offense but he can't win games enough for us to dominate.:evil:

 

[mattgilm]

I agree Linehan has been bad, but as far as last sunday i'm not sure why everyone is complaining about gus' 47 passes. He was on fire. over 300 yars and 2 TD's. If you are passing like that there is no reason to stop. It's silly to say we should have run more when the passing game was going great. Also, as far as those final plays to tie it up, Chambers dropped the ball. He dropped it. It was in his hands. What more does Linehan need to do? He called a play that worked but the reciever didn't execute. That is not on the OC. Its on Chambers. I'm not going to argue about the call at the Falcons... that was terrable. But last game was well called. We orchestrated two clutch drives in a row and were one drop away from OT.

Everyone needs to understand that 3-6 with the hardest record in the NFL is where we should be. Not only that but we haven't gotten blown out once, so if you ask me we are doing far better then we should be doing. The fact is that all you people on Saban's case are just making his good coaching work against him. The fact that he lead us to wins over Denver and Carolina is stunning, but then you guys began EXPECTING that from our team. It's unrealistic. If we had lost on week one there would be less fans on his case, which is just sad.

BOWIE is great and I like that CD very much, GO Fins.:evil:

 

[testtubetimmy]

I am one of the biggest Frerotte bashers on this site.

5 dropped passes by Chambers. YES DROPS! NOt bad throws, plain drops that hit him between the 8 and the 4.
1 dropped pass by Barnes

You take those and he is now 31/47

Frerotte was not the problem. He had a dang good game and he was the reason we were in that game offensively. That was some of the best touch I have seen a QB throw with in a while.

Only 3 passes I thought were bad or off target the whole day. The one to McMichaels, the next was the one that almost got INT'D and the last was that throw to Brown that lost 4 yards in the last minute.

And to the guy asking why we didn't run? Brown was one of the main reasons we got to the 5 yard line to begin with with his nice catch and run.

He was averaging 5 yards a carry. We had 2 TO'S with 47 secs left. Why is it even arguable that we shouldn't have ran the ball.

Everyone and their mother knows it gets harder to complete a pass the closer you get to the endzone which is one of the reasons I didn't mind too much that loss to the 10 yard line.

So yes you run the ball just Like Seattle, Indy, TB, NE, ETC.... Does in that situation and I don't care how much better there lines are. Brown was averaging 5 yards a carry.

They could have ran it 3 times and still had a good 20 secs if they got stuffed all 3 times.

why did we want them to run it?

Because we LOST

Gus throws 47 times. completes it 20. most of them were little dinky passes that were runs after the catch to up the yardage. Come on, you throw 47 times in a game and your gonna have a ton of yardage.

But the point is, dropped passes or not, we lost the game. Would we have lost if we kept it on the ground? Knowing New Englands run defense and what we were doing to them in the first half? Who knows

But two times in the second half ronnie brown ran the ball. They handed the ball to him TWICE. That is not balanced football. And when you place the ball in the hands of a QB, no matter how well he's doing, that has had problems for his entire career, look what happens.

A LOSS

 

[Awsi Dooger]

Get past the passing yardage folks.

His QB rating was 83.5 and you can't expect WR's to not drop the ball. I've seen far worse on other teams for cases of the dropseys.

Good point. He was slightly less than 7.7 yards per attempt which is very good for this season, but hardly remarkable.

I think drops can be used to evaluate a WR but definitely not a QB over the course of a season. They happen in every game. I'm sitting there with monitors covering every game and drops galore.

47 passes and 25 rushes is not a winning formula. I'm glad to see there is an ongoing acceptance in that regard on this forum. When I joined last February I stressed the importance of rushing attempts in many posts and wasn't exactly greeted with acceptance in that regard. Many posters who gave opinions in reply, including several high profile, wouldn't want their words or assessments pasted here now. This season you've had more of a focus on necessity of rushing attempts due not only to our games but also situations like the Eagles.

Speaking of other posters words, what's up with the low class pasting of another poster's flawed opinion in sigs? That's pathetic, IMO. If someone makes a flub, even a world class flub, just mention it once and get over it. The people who put themselves on a line with atypical opinions are obviously going to err, much more than the ones who always repeat the party line or never voice any opinions at all. Negativity in sigs is more revealing of the poster than the person being quoted. Frankly, I don't think the mods should allow it.