I'm probably over-looking something but how are the dolphins not the 6th place wild card team right now.. They just beat the jags head to head and that would be the first tie breaker "head to head results" takes that spot???/
Wildcard standings?????
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TheDon74
42.7% of all statistics are made up
only if the Ravens weren't part of the mix, if it was just us and the Jags fighting it out we would be over them but since it's a 3 team tie it go's to conference wins and the Jags are over us in this category.
It doesn't matter because either the Jags will win out or they won't, if they do win out that would mean they beat the Pats and we would win the division. If they don't win out we them jump over them anyway.......its a win win 4 us as long as we win out.
Heres the full breakdown
http://www.thephinsider.com/2009/12/14/1200152/simplifying-the-playoff-picture#storyjump
It doesn't matter because either the Jags will win out or they won't, if they do win out that would mean they beat the Pats and we would win the division. If they don't win out we them jump over them anyway.......its a win win 4 us as long as we win out.
Heres the full breakdown
http://www.thephinsider.com/2009/12/14/1200152/simplifying-the-playoff-picture#storyjump
In a 3-way tie head-to-head is ignored, UNLESS two or more of the teams in the tie are from the same division. In that case, divisional tiebreaks apply until you eliminate all but one team from any given division.
So if it was the Steelers tied with us and the Ravens for the last wildcard and the Steelers held the divisional tiebreak over the Ravens, and we held a head-to-head over the Steelers, we'd win the tiebreak.
This is why the Jets are screwed by tying us, even in a 3 way tie for a wildcard.
this is the best explanation ive seen so far. of course we must win out. i like how the jags situation makes ours very rosy.
Bta72dolphins
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just stop looking at it cause if we lose one game there is no chance.
That's not accurate. In a 3-way tie among teams from different divisions, head-to-head results can count but only if one team has beaten or lost to both of the others.
Let's say Miami were tied with Baltimore and San Diego for a wildcard. Although we didn't play Baltimore, the Chargers have played both Miami and Baltimore this season. Had the Chargers won both those games, they'd win that tiebreak (or if they lost both, they'd be eliminated and the Miami-Baltimore tiebreak would start over). As it happens, San Diego beat Miami and lost to Baltimore, so head-to-head results are tossed out.
The Herald has a story today that says head-to-head among three teams only count if all teams have played each other. That's also inaccurate. You only need two games among three teams, depending on the results.
In the NFL tiebreak rules, it's called the "head-to-head sweep rule."
Ah yeah, forgot about that part. Good call. :up:
zachblitz54
Juck the Fets
I mentioned this in another post, but there is no reason to worry about Jacksonville if we win our three remaining games. Jacksonville plays the cheatriots and will either lose and drop below us with 7 losses, or win and give the Fins the division title. No worries about the Jags.
burger13
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that's the most common misconception on this board right now.
we can lose to Tennessee OR Houston w/o significantly decreasing our chances at the wild card.
So assuming a win against the Titans, a week 16 loss for the Ravens against the Steelers will practically be more important than a win for the Phins over the Texans. Yikes.
We can lose one of those and remain alive, but I don't see how you could say our chances wouldn't be significantly decreased. There would suddenly be more teams we'd need to lose, and less time left to get what we need.
At 9-7, a wildcard is possible but improbable. At 10-6, there's at least a good chance.
burger13
FinHeaven VIP
our chances would decrease, but not fall off a cliff....
we wouldn't all of a sudden need inferior teams to win....Oakland, or KC or Cleveland, wouldn't all of a sudden have to win to get us in. The teams we would need, would all be favored, like INd or NE over Jax, or IND or Cincy over the Jests.
At 9-7 (with the loss coming against Hou or Ten) AND a Pitts win over Baltimore, a wildcard is still probable, IMO.
Bta72dolphins
Active Roster
Ok there are VERY SLIM chances of still making playoffs if we lose, but everything else would have to go perfect. NE to lose to buff and another game and Jets to lose. OR Ravens to Pitt, Jags, and Den to lose will have to lose. The only way we have a chance I truly believe is we need to win all three.