Will Allen hype!

[tical]

In my personal opinion i don't think he's as good as being advertise. I mean he's okay! my points.

1) How many big plays has Will Allen made since he's been here that u can clearly remember?

2) How often is the other teams #1 receiver, usually roasting him! i dare say quite often!

3) How often when the other team needed a first down you knew they were throwing to Will Allens side! and how often do they usually get it!

From what i can see, usually the other corner opposite him has a better year! most recent case and point goodman! teams started avoiding throwing to his side!


Please fill me in if i'm missing something about Will Allen! hes not even on surtains or madisons level as a #1 corner! how often did those guys make plays compared to Will Allen? Will Allen is not a #1 corner and barely a #2! he is a #3! I said it!

 

[Schleprock]

Aside from #1, I find the rest of your points full of shenanigans. Your proof?

 

[Yamilo]

2) How often is the other teams #1 receiver, usually roasting him! i dare say quite often!

Sir, that one is a lie. Will Allen usually fell on his own. Excuse me i meant to say "slipped". :D

 

[Emil305]

Dude Will Allen almost never had help, Goodman always had help... So if u are the O C who would u throw to Will A or Double Team.. Take another look buddy.... Will A is the real deal he is the best player in our secondary...

 

[Nappy Roots]

In my personal opinion i don't think he's as good as being advertise. I mean he's okay! my points.

1) How many big plays has Will Allen made since he's been here that u can clearly remember?

2) How often is the other teams #1 receiver, usually roasting him! i dare say quite often!

3) How often when the other team needed a first down you knew they were throwing to Will Allens side! and how often do the usually get it!

From what i can see, usually the other corner opposite him has a better year! most recent case and point goodman! teams started advoiding throwing to his side!


Please fill me in if i"m missing something about Will Allen! his not even on surtains or madisons level as a #1 corner! how often did those guys make plays compared to Will Allen?

i dont think anyone is saying Allen is on Madison or Surtains level. those 2 at their best you could argue were the best CBs in the league.

Allen is very solid, and as Schleprock said, outside #1, your reasons are bull****.

 

[Dr. Phin]

Sometime you look at post and just say to yourself, "There is no point in even trying to explain to someone just how wrong they are..."

This is one of those times...

 

[tical]

Sir, that one is a lie. Will Allen usually fell on his own. Excuse me i meant to say "slipped". :D

funny hell! just recently in the playoff old-A## Mason, used him as a doormat! some will sight it was lack of pressure from our d-line on the qb! etc.. but how often did u witness Mr. surtain, putting the vice-grip on marvin harrison a far superior wr than derrick mason! please will allen is average at best! and if we still had surtain, madsion, jerry wilson or even jamar fletcher would probably start over him!( kiddin about fletcher tho!)

 

[XxJustinxX]

Finally someone calling out Will Allen. Will Allen is a good cornerback, but I only see him as a #2. He does not have the ability to shut down recievers when in 1 on 1 coverage on a constant basis. Giving him the excuse of not having help just doesnt cut it for me. You want to be a #1 you need to be able to handle big time recievers without help sometimes.

#3 is one I dont agree with, mainly because your trying to throw the blame on 1 player for a whole side of the field. Thats the whole secondary and LB's fault.

Still, right now Will Allen is our #1 cornerback and I hope he can make some big plays this year and get a pick6 or two.

 

[Schleprock]

and this is why I hate the rep system here...people don't know how to use it.

get in a thread where some people don't like your opinion or are sucking up to more "popular" posters, you end up with red like me. Meanwhile, you have people who talk straight hullabaloo with no proof, and they have 2 green bars.

:bricks: ............................................ :crutch:

 

[GoonBoss]

You get an "F".

 

[bradmcnutt]

Definitely not a shutdown corner, but pretty good in coverage and an excellent tackler in run support which you can't overlook.

 

[tical]

Dude Will Allen almost never had help, Goodman always had help... So if u are the O C who would u throw to Will A or Double Team.. Take another look buddy.... Will A is the real deal he is the best player in our secondary...

okay i understand your point! but how often did madison or surtain get "help"? not often! i watched surtain man-handle! Marvin harrison in the dolphins-colts playoff game,with one of the games best qb's( payton manning) i was there! saw it with my own eyes, 1 on 1! harrison ended up pushing-off on surtain to get separation! thats a # 1 corner! please name 1 reciever that Will Allen has dominated?

 

[Schleprock]

Definitely not a shutdown corner, but pretty good in coverage and an excellent tackler in run support which you can't overlook.

agreed, forgot to add that. Will allen may be up there with the likes of Antoine Winfield in his ability to cover/play/tackle/stop the run. Doesn't shy away from contact at all.

 

[tical]

You get an "F".

very insightful, you haven't said anything to refute my points! this coaching staff, is talking about will allen like he's a #1 corner and he's clearly not! that's my main point!

 

[GoonBoss]

okay i understand your point! but how often did madison or surtain get "help"? not often! i watched surtain man-handle! Marvin harrison in the dolphins-colts playoff game,with one of the games best qb's( payton manning) i was there! saw it with my own eyes, 1 on 1! harrison ended up pushing-off on surtain to get separation! thats a # 1 corner! please name 1 reciever that Will Allen has dominated?

What corners has Miami ever had that were comparable to Surtian/Madison? Not many. Add to that, they were the CB tandems in some catastophic defensive collapses in Dolphin history. Were they good? Yes. Is Will Allen as good as them? No. He's a solid CB that has his share of failings, but, has been the best CB on the team since we got him. That's not too bad.